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A dealer won’t plug or patch it. I had a screw in the same spot on my GTI and plugged it myself very easy and cheap and so far has been fine.

Yeah that is really low perhaps maybe that’s including the trade in or down payment which shouldn’t count though.

Lots of dealers do the no test drive thing. Honda with Type R VW with Golf R. How many of you guys bought the Supra without a test drive?

For a premium ya not yet. Maybe for a base you might.

How low are we talking?

I’d be pissed if Toyota offered a targa too just after I bought one.

The MY20 Supra is still a great car. Other than retail value probably won’t be as good as the MY21 and up but it’s what it is.

Good one. I found a 3.0 base loaded Navigation and DAP for 4K under sticker and the color I like but parts of my wants to hold out till I find a premium one. Is the premium definitely worth over a good discount base?

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Well chances are if they were willing to spend 50K and up why they want a cheaper and lower power one? To me the MY21 2.0 is for those that can’t afford the 50K and up and just want a Supra and not an 86. I think it’s good to have more options from an 86, Supra 2.0 or 3.0.

True the guys who track corrected me on that. I was more less talking about the regular people who daily drive the car wouldn’t notice as much as track people. They are both awesome cars. I think it’s the retail value in the second hand market that will effect the 2020 sellers. The Corvette...

I agree with that. I did look at some C7 17 Vettes and they are pretty good deals on them for the price on what you can get. I’ve always wanted a Supra and was too young and didn’t have enough money in the 90’s or early 00’s so I don’t want to let this Supra slip away this time. At the end of...

Toyota does have to be careful cause if the price goes up too much then people will just pay a little more and go for the C8 corvette.

That’s the way I look at it. More power and upgrades should cost more. If it doesn’t then I can see why those that paid sticker or over on a MY20 are pissed.

Yeah the 2.0 is pretty much going to be people who want a 3.0 Supra but can’t afford it but don’t want the 86 either type fan base. I don’t have a problem with the 2.0. I think right now is a great time for a new Supra buyer. They can pick from a MY20 3.0 for probably under MSRP plenty on the...

I know what you mean by that. On paper 382 vs 335 looks better even the sub 3.9 does too. For people like me who don’t track the car it’s not that big of a deal imo. For an example I drove both Golf R and GTI and while the R is fast with awd I still choose the GTI as it was a better value to me...

Let’s be honest here what’s really the difference between 4.1 and 3.9 not much if there’s a price increase for the 21 3.0 then it all evens out in the end.

The way I look at it all cars go through improvements every year.

I don’t see the 21 2.0 costing 55K like 2020 3.0 does. Or else people are just going to buy a 20 3.0 left over for the same if not lower price.

I’m thinking the 2.0 starts at 45K