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They don't really sound different at all stock. It sounds like the 2020 had an aftermarket downpipe or exhaust. While the 2021 was fully stock. You also don't have to spend anywhere near 6k to unlock the ECU...

definitely tempted to order a fumoto valve myself. Which one did you order from them?

Do you feel any differences in the clutch pedal when this happens? without a video of the sound its hard to really say.

Most of them I have seen have had markups anywhere from 70k-90k OTD

It's just a little Ninja 400 but it's treated me well. I wanted to start off on something small. I will be upgrading to a ZX6R next year now that I am a fairly decent rider. This thing already moves and is so easy to get your knee down on. Even with me at 300lbs 6ft1 its SUPER maneuverable.

haha, yeah I got my reckless driving out of the way my first two years driving. I get a little stupid on my bike sometimes, but in a 2000-3000lb+ car you're putting more than just yourself at risk. It's never worth it.

Just today on the way to work some riced out Honda Civic got butthurt by this SUV. He cut them off and ran a red to make a point lol. I have had guns pointed at me because I didn't let them cut me off. Don't even get me started on the madness I see when I am on my Sport Bike o_O

I actually don't have it yet. It got built a couple weeks ago and It's been sitting in port over in Austria waiting for a ship. It's going to be a Red 2024 MT. What color is your car? if you're in Sherman I am sure I have seen you around.

I did run some quotes awhile 3-4 months back. They were quite a lot cheaper then. I can only assume its because I ran the quotes for a 2023 and not a 2024? or maybe they didn't see the ticket at the time? I guess I will just eat the cost and hope it goes down $30-$50 a year lol.

I've owned 4-5 and driven even more sh*t boxes. Nicest car I've had is my Miata currently. I have grown my career to a stupid good spot and everything I have, I bought myself. It seems like people think I am an ignorant youngin making 30-40k a year trying to buy this car when that is not the...

We've had someone crash into a building every month it feels like this year in my City (Springfield). There's not a week where I don't see a few different crashes on the way home. We are not even that big of a city either. It somehow gets easier to avoid collisions towards St Louis and Chicago....

Yeah, I think my location is pretty high risk as well. Drivers here are awful, and that in combo with me being young is the issue for sure. Appreciate ya!

Now that I can see the data I can see why it's so high. The rates aren't that excessive then if you look at it from that POV. Appreciate both of ya!

Are you referring to me? I probably pay just as much in taxes friend. :crazy:

My parents trust me, I Just have never liked taking handouts or owing anyone anything personally. I moved out as soon as I could and have made sure everything is in my name only. However, I might see what a quote under them would be based off what you guys have said. Edit: hope that didn't come...

Yeah, it's really a shame since I really wasn't at fault at all. I was pulling up to a stale yellow from the parking lot and I think they assumed I was going to just go through it.

I'm not really being stretched thin, it just HURTS to be throwing this much at insurance. It's extremely shocking to me that I am going to be paying Supercar insurance prices for a Supra. No one I know is even close to these insurance costs.

Yeah, I was wondering if there was something like that. I know for my Sport Bike I was able to take the MSF and get a huge discount off of insurance. Thanks!

I've been browsing this forum for months and I don't get the point of yelling about oil threads. They don't come up THAT much. I really think a lot of this yelling at the clouds about oil threads sh*t could get solved with a simple chat built into the site so people can ask their stupid...

So I have been calling around asking for quotes for full coverage on my 2024 3.0 MT that's arriving soon. I have been getting quoted anywhere from $450-$800 a month for insurance in Springfield, IL. I turned 22 5 days ago, and I have 1 ticket from nearly 3 years ago for going 13 over. I have 1...