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Wow very nice. The Aircon control panel looks like a retro radio. I like it.

Hi @A70TTR I have a question for you. Do you think Toyota will use the same engine for their motorsports activities? I know that plays a huge roll in further development and perfecting of engines but this isn't their engine. The more they develop it, the more only BMW gains in the future and not...

I also wish Toyota didn't get this cozy with BMW. Initially I thought they'd make an all new engine for the Supra not use a somewhat run of the mill BMW one. I feel like Toyota has no grip on this project at all. For every small issue they'd have to run back to BMW and ask them what to do...

I hear what you're saying and to some degree I agree with you BUT the V8 is nice, very nice it's just not wow by any means. To me it feels like an easy way out for them to brand an F car. Since the ISF many moons ago, all they have managed to do is update that very engine here and there. I just...

Yes but along with the the AMG line and S line there's actual AMG and S models. Moreover in every size of vehicle. With Lexus its same shit different smell. They've been flogging that V8 for way too long. The LCF is still a long ways away and by the time it comes, it will be about the last...

Out of curiosity, what is unique to the A90 in terms of engine parts? I'm aware of the oil pump and sump but is there anything else I've missed? Some time ago there was talk of a unique block and Yamaha tuned head. I don't know if that's true anymore. Perhaps there's more we don't know or maybe...

As much as I'm a huge fan of Lexus, I feel like it's a brand full of lost opportunities. They started so well with the ISF. It wasn't the best car in its category but it was a great car nonetheless. They should have maintained that momentum and by now should have had an F version of just about...

The thing I hope Toyota realises is that this is their top of the page sports car. The fact that they chose to name it Supra adds to that immensely. With BMW it's not the case, there's a whole range of cars above the z4. And so Toyota needs to nail this no 2 ways. I expected the supra to slot...

White and yellow look absolutely beautiful. Of all the unknowns regarding this car, the one thing I'm sure of is that it is a very good looking car. In alot of ways, it looks better than the FT1 to me.

Good point. So confusing lol. At this point an emoji response from @A70TTR to one of our theories might suffice :D

It is a very good thing indeed but how did they achieve it? Unless it's not really a B58 at all. And that Toyota and BMW will name it as a B58 because everything outside of the head and block is B58 and of course to keep inline with Z4. Do you think Toyota would provide some provisions on the...

The current B58 with W2A makes lesser power than 380 with more boost :| I really REALLY hope our guesses are somewhat correct and this is indeed an S58 that's been choked to perform exactly like a B58. It just makes financial sense too rather than having a different B58 just for Toyota. And it...

Fair point BUT here's what confuses me. Look on the left side of the scene with the laptop. The door is covered with felt. Another thing is why would bmw allow Toyota to go through with making plenty of changes to the B58 (essentially making a whole new engine) and not keep any of that for...

Exactly. Maybe this iron block we've been hearing is actually the S58. And Toyota have been known to do just that. They take an engine designed to make alot more power then bring that power level way down for reliability sake hence you have alot of headroom. And 1 more thing Toyota has been...

What if Toyota gave BMW some ideas on how to better the B58 and bmw implemented those on the S58 rather and agreed to share that engine with them on the condition that they would use the intake Manifolds and turbo from the B58 so as to be in line with the Z4 AND have a clear separation from the...