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Yes - no matter what the hassle we are ordering the M2. M4 order is now officially dead. I know the M4 has brutal power, I just cannot get over the mass of the thing. We have the M240 and the size is optimal for life. The M2 is just perfect for performance at 450ps.

In case this was not posted before. https://www.bmwblog.com/2022/06/12/2023-bmw-m2-review/

Presumptuous and ignorant- you just smell you little boy LOL! Lacking class to say the least LOL. Did you use 1 or both brain cells for that turd of a remark.

Beyond the supply - demand lecture- its also the dealers screwing their base customers and the makers inability or desire to control pricing of what they build. Add idiotic press hype about manuals and you get Tulip Bulb idiocy over a mass produced car. This is entertaining to see auto...

Astute.............those paying over........not so much. The market is cooling here as well.

Interesting and calm review of new Z. Track focused overall.

When I tell you this do listen. 70+% of original model M2 were sold here in Germany with DCT. In used market the price difference is nil. Nil. I gave up manuals completely after my 2017 M2 DCT. Superb driving and fun. Manual is just SLOWER. Have fun with the clutch useless and over priced...

You beeech and moan and complain and confirm 1 thing. You go slower. Wow..................If YOU WANT to go slower get the BRZ/GT86 and feel connected LOL. The press beeeched about this, implied PURITY OF drive / connected etc. Bottom line. YOU GO SLOWER in all phases. Wanna be connected Mr...

NO one cares the Lotus EVORA has a TOYOTA V6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The SUPRA is a TOYOTA developed machine.

Or going slower LOL :) :) :)

Overpaying for slower than Supra, but updated G37 LOL> Bad idea.

Cars.Com - in US tonight has 428 Supra's avail used 20-22. Not really seeing a shortage. The problem will be dealers who offered way toooo much trying to move those units. See alot of them with 'just reduced' in the advert. Id say buying used is getting better. This is a niche market type buy...

Sinking ship of a car and paid shill trash about what it can do. The car is an utter compromise, is a GT on a good day lol. Its more old than new. Admirable about new, sportscar, not much else. The price they are asking is now an insult overall. Its just sad to see the shills out there trying...

Would think added weight has to be the case with batteries and electric motors being anything but light. Nice to have the nostalgic look but the dynamics of the original would be missed in my opinion. Reality is fully designed electric cars will be better drivers most likely.

How much of a CG shift is noted for these conversions. Would be interesting to see how the handling dynamics are affected with this installation.

Yes but your other quote was drive what you like - personal preference etc. The value retention alone proves the worth of the GTR. Its world wide respected much like any good performance Porsche such as your GTS. Some of the 'slowest' cars Ive owned made me second guess my faster one's. Again...

The articles reference the Z should read - IF you need an upgraded Infinity G37 Coupe' here it is. Thats exactly what this car is - all based on a 20+ year old 'nostalgia' chassis LOL.

Add 500$ for the brakes/pads it should come with since the Z is 'so engaging' etc etc etc. Sorry but it you are buying performance you dont 'upsell' brake pads BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE SHOWROOM LOL

Avail in Germany - Manual for those who need to be 'connected' :)...

OOOPs the youth did not disappoint!!