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If youre seriously asking this then you didn't read what I said. It isn't just simply skipping their opinions on the car, it is about wanting a full review and not a half baked one after they break down their stance on their manufactured controversy. Okay I will gladly "review" it when I get a...

It is nothing to do with that, but thanks for playing. The 'big deal' is that I want to hear about the car *beyond* the BMW parts and development. The reviewers turn their platform of objective reviews (objective to an extent because opinion's are subjective by nature but you get the point)...

Toyota is a business, that's what they do. They improved the car in every quantitative way, what more do you want?

Exactly, the only thing that signifies a Supra is an inline 6 and being the most expensive Toyota badged coupe

The MKIV isn't anything like the MKIII, good luck with your current "supra".

I called this awhile ago, after the M3/M4 get released the Supra will have it's opportunity. The real question is if the M3/M4 get a manual option

It would only be hand me downs if they got the B58M0 or S55 lmao

1. That doesn't answer what car it was, that is cheaper than the average Toyota. 2. Of course it has older parts, but that doesn't mean Toyota didn't do any tuning. 3. The language here is particular and doesn't suggest no improvements were made. It says Toyota noted their concerns and that...

1. Oil changes at my local dealer is around $125, what BMW did you own where you only needed 1.5 oil changes a year? I'll seriously buy one right now. 2. Badges still don't mean anything, youre welcome to refer to the two other posts explaining how that logic is poor. 3. Proof?

To be fair, this isn't much of a markup if that is an LE with the driver assistance package which is around $56,500. Atleast they are actually giving you something tangible with the extra expense instead of adding $X,000 additional because 'we have it and you want it' type of thing. A lot of...

No shit, I have been saying that since the start. You have ignored all the substance, you have yet to explain why supply chains don't work the way they do and how BMW production is different. the exact specifications are irrelevant and are used to explain the business model but that does not...

But that isn’t what he said. He said Toyota can’t provide a transmission to Magna Steyr because BMW has did that, that, and the other. While I do agree the economies of scale don’t make sense to Toyota to do so, that doesn’t mean they can’t. I think we should be looking to the M3 pure’s...

Stamps are irrelevant in this conversation, of course it will have a BMW stamp regardless. This is why the J160 that Toyota used in Altezza had a Subaru stamp on it when it was put in the twins, it was still a Toyota part regardless. I’m not saying there are Toyota parts on the car with BMW...

That conversation was never with me, you have yet to address anything I have said without repeating your same narrative this forum already knows in the same way a Econ101 student keeps repeating the definition. The automotive industry today is an industry of suppliers, not just manufacturers...

I'm dead, you missed my point entirely! Hahaha I am not talking about the supply and demand of any sort here, it is used as an educational concept in the academic metaphor. But forget it, it went over your head and I don't want to reexplain it. The point is that we are discussing things with...

Because you join the forum to talk at us as if we don't already know what you've listed above for years. The conversation has moved well passed what you're saying so while us metaphorical graduate students are discussing how supply & demand doesn't always work in a vacuum, you're butting into...

I think you’re confused, not everything at Magna Steyr is strictly BMW.

This is how Magna Steyr works and operates and how they are able to manufacturer cars to the standards of specific companies.

Thats a cool fun fact. I have one for you, it doesn't matter. As long as the transmission can get into their supply chain, like ZF transmissions, it can be installed in the car at magna steyr

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