Agree.
At 55-60K I'm expecting over 400HP period...
See below for reference, if I'm dropping this kind of money an M3/Cayman S or used R35 is within reach, is what I'm thinking mentally.
^ Starts & $66,500
No, check it out.. Bingo because... I think he's correct in saying that most of his friends are used to buying used, but this is the car for many that could be the shift where those that bought only used is considering buying new and out the box. I know for one this is case for myself and I...
Bingo, and this is why this is huge for us...
Think of it this way.In Pure Form.
What makes the cars, houses, jobs, we all love and want all good? Foundation or support system the very fiber for which it's built upon.
You see in order for a car to be good, it has to have a "Good Foundation"...
Like a head on collision before it happens, I see the contrast.
What I'm simply saying is that the car should not be designed to disappoint enthusiast and make people who doesn't understand how cars work happy. You seem to be saying that enthusiast are out-numbered therefore the car should be...
Complacency would be giving "light" enthusiast a car that misses the mark for true enthusiasts.
I don't know if by Hardcore enthusiasts you mean shops, or people with disposable income, but this is out of touch with the "Supra Buyer"
The Supra buyer is one that wants something out the box...
If Toyota turns there back on the "heavy" enthusiast they would have missed the boat completely with this car.
Toyota doesn't need any more help in selling their brand, people already know and love them for their reliability. They are marketing this car as a Halo and the spec requirements...
Again...
How can this car command such high dollar when it hasn't proven itself?
Basic model has to be above FRS but below Cayman, and offer more performance on paper.
Top Tier should be a GT4 fighter with pricing low enough for GT4 market buyers to give it a try.
Basic Model: 45-50K
Top...
Most impressive and hopeful news I've read so far...
"382hp"
So if the Z4 gets 382 hp, i'm expecting the Supra to cross over into the 400's.
Very good news indeed, keep in mind BMW will be releasing an M version aswell, compare this to Gazoo's top trim and we should be all good in the power...
Interesting, but I do think Toyota should offer the MT out the gate, so to not stagnate sales from the very beginning
I mean how will you have demand, if no one wants the auto, just a thought.
Make Manual available from day 1, at the very least special order.
BTW.... All Porsche standard...
Hhaha, the difference between hardtop and targa top is night and day.
Hardtop = Handling and supreme performance
Targa = Cruising, wind in your hair chilling.
Owned both, really comes down to if you are willing to sacrifice ride quality for fun factor in a semi convertible.
Targa Top major...
TOYOTA.... Aesthetically/Performance these things have to be in the car.
FUNCTION AIR VENTS ALL AROUND
SIDE AIR VENT SIMILAR TO FT1 (Nice & Deep)
ACTIVE AERO OF SOME SORT