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Here's a grab from the Lightning Lap historical data lightning-lap-times-historical-data/ comparing results within plus or minus a half second of the manual Supra. Look at the company the Supra is keeping! And bear in mind the automatic version would be faster in a same-day, same-driver matchup.

I don't have one, but here's an earlier conversation about them: Opinion on best LPFP

The Miata & Supra are garage mates in the winter... ie "now". 4Runner for towing, off road excursions and winter fun.

I'm not sure wrapping it in a trash bag is an improvement or not...? ;)

James: "But... the Nissan Z is quite a bit cheaper than this." Thomas: "For good reason! It's worse!" ?

This video speaks to the challenges Lotus is facing to ramp up Emira production. What a gorgeous factory.

Another Throttle House comparo with the Elantra N and Civic Type R :thumbsup:

This leaderboard pic from Throttle House is a bit out of date, but it shows two iterations of the Mustang clearly competitive with the Supra. There haven't been any power improvements to the GR since '21. Meanwhile Ford has been upping the ante.

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/threads/nissan-z-vs-370z-nismo-drag-race-and-lap-time-by-throttle-house.1422/ The 2023 Z is not much faster than the 370Z NISMO. Brakes & cornering still not great. May be a nice platform to perform feats of technical wizardry on, though. :coffee:

I'd absolutely buy the red one. I hope they make the vents functional on the GR SUV. ?

Not something I did "to" the Supra, but I framed this for the living room ;)

Finally, Toyota offers a Z-killer to claim the title of Ultimate Driver's Car! :thumbsup:

Absolutely this. I replaced my own as well. Motor is oriented horizontally.

Thomas So when you wring it out, the Z bottoms on the suspension, lacks steering feedback, is almost uncontrollable, and Thomas says the first thing he'd do if he bought one, is remove the suspension and replace it with coilovers. But "it has good bones". ? Thomas & James are one of Canada's...

Posting this ironically and with great sarcasm. ;) Thomas & James have a clear understanding of these behemoths.

Just... wow. Maybe I COULD enjoy an electric Supra some day! ?

The export version of the Mkiv ended production in 1998, but the Japanese version continued production until July 2002. :thumbsup:

Thank you! Taken around 5 AM this morning, after a gentle rain.