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And that's the point, I am aware of your stance and performance, we've heard it loud and clear. But now only curiosity fills me when the value minded consumer who was against the supra is not afraid to throw money at it, so what made the rightful skeptic a believer?

With the filter? Or without

My wording is bad, but you and Performance ate on the skeptic side of this car and obviously when one went from on the fence to breaking open the wallet, even the skeptics have to wonder what happened. The skeptic was Performance in this case and I wonder if this is going to surprise us all...

When toyota makes a skeptic into a believer. Better yet Performance, in one word, would the info even make JDmuscle sing a different tune?

Huh. Under promise, over deliver. Those four words are haunting me right now

I'd never thought I would see the day for Performance to look forward to the Supra, nor have him and A70 shoot the shit. When even this gets Performance to be excited, Toyota really is something else on their PR team

In real life, it's called hell freezing over.

I already hear the keyboards clacking away from journalists. And now ladies and Gents, we're in the twilight zone.

Who put hybrid tech in my Supra?

No, it's a Toyota-only engineered car. Apparently that's the only thing that can be accepted. Frankly, it doesn't matter what is released, there's going to be problems with it from one neck of the woods to the other. Either go cheap so it can be mass-produced and risks flak from enthusiasts...

Slightly crossing my fingers all those options stays at options and there is a base car for performance at a cheaper rate.

Don't see how Mazda gets any benefits.A new mazda 3 hatch? Cool, but unless they want a hoon version, can't imagine them signing off. If toyota wants the hot hatch crowd , either the chassis needs to be rigid, weigh less than 3100 lbs or be equipped with 250-260 HP. Out of those three, pick any...

A hatchback Yaris with AWD capabilities and some grunt with torque should be plenty of fun. Keep it around 3000-3200 lbs and I feel Toyota can capture part of the market. So when is the news going to break that they are making this car alongside the WRX STI hatchback for the new generation...

Celica AWD? :) It's going to be a Yaris isn't it?

Then you can say the price without notice of which dealer so all these hack journalists can't go off in a hurry and write articles.

Didn't have a comp to type. Gonna just do a quick summary. Toyota/Lexus made the LFa over a long period as an exercise of training engineers with the highest tech at the time and make them change from the monotomy of Camry's and Lexus Is to see what a super car can be and the work needed to...

That is true, and I know toyota wants to save cost and have a one off sports car, but it makes me wonder if they made the car to save money? Or was the president unable to make the car have a business case without someone fitting the bill and making the car affordable to the masses? Cause Lexus...

I still have faith in the car and if we are going by styling and power, it's a Supra. Whether the heritage and matter of who made it or badging is an issue altogether that I rather not enter because it's a murky level on an unreleased vehicle. I want to see how the car drives and perform with...

I'm always a defender but again, making some of these old guys who love numbers and want to maximize revenue likely never driven a fun sports car in their life. Perhaps moving forward after driving these vehicles, the execs starts to wonder at Toyota, not Lexus, Hm, this is fun, how much money...

Yep, you right. I was thinking of the 30 i being the 6 cylinder, but the lower rated trim of the 6 cylinder. Whoops. In that case, it will be the same, except the 20 i will be the 30 i