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Envision Milpitas is one of the worst stealerships in the entire country. I'd legit take a bullet before buying anything from there ever.

Hmm, was your dealership perhaps in close proximity to the port? I think supras either come in from Long Beach, CA or Newark, NJ depending on which side of US

Does Toyota really ship new supras in open trailers from the port to dealer?

Would a 2021 with a build date of 05/2020 and an ECU date of 06/05/2020 be tunable? Been reading up on “06/20” ECUs and there doesn't seem to be a clear cut date

Yeah there were mechanical updates as well. The Toyota quote in OP says:

Anyone else have any experience to share on 21/22 vs 23 handling?

Stock downpipe?

Refraction blue is honestly really nice; I considered buying an used one just for the color but ultimately ended up with a new 2023 instead. I'm not sure if I'm sold on stratosphere still; maybe pictures don't quite do it justice? I'm not sure if I'm sold on stratosphere still; maybe pictures...

I'm a little surprised that Stratosphere won this and not Nitro Yellow. Maybe it's because Nitro Yellow owners just seem to post the most pictures.

Probably can’t sell to Cali residents right? (since CARB)

Highly considering a 991.1/2; anyone here went that route? If so, how do you like it? And is there anything you miss from the supra?

I'd go to Longo (El Monte) because they're the only honest dealership.

3.0 base MT has some other perks over 3.0 base AT as well (base MT gets wireless charging tray for free) but yeah it's really weird.

Thanks! That's exactly what I wanted to confirm

What about the rear?

That means brake pads for the 3.0 Premium should be fine right? I know for past model years, the 3.0 base had to shop for 2.0 brake pads to fit.

I've heard that for 2023 the 3.0 base has the same size brakes as the 3.0 premium? Can anyone confirm if that's true? Toyota's official page says they're still smaller on the base, but the official page also says that the base doesn't get red calipers (which they do).

Interesting info! How would you guys characterize the difference between a 2021/2022 (2022 had no performance changes) vs. 2023? Are the 2023 updates noticeable in spirited driving? Or is it fairly irrelevant until you start tracking hard?

Since 2023s have been out for a while now, has anyone who's driven BOTH a 2023 and a 2021/2022 actually noticed a practical improvement in the suspension or handling? If yes, how noticeable is it? Curious especially if you've noticed for spirited canyon driving or track use. I'm specifically...