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Well.. Toyota could’ve easily remastered the FRS chassis and made it handle more power and use a different motor. They didn’t have to go order a car from BMW for the sake of an inline 6. Toyota never traditionally ups the ante in terms of power with any of their models during mid cycle. Remind...

Nice article.. thanks for bringing that up. 1) Toyota was honest about having a sporty image back then. Today they just want to pose.. not actually be a sporty company. We can just have someone else build the car and pay half the price for it. No one cares if it’s really not a Toyota. Just slap...

At 45k to 50k range (4cyl spec Zupra) we have the following... 1) 2019 Mustang GT with 460hp and a 10spd auto that can go sub 4 seconds 0-60. Add performance pack 2 and it’ll shame anything BMW has built for Toyota. 2) 2018 Camaro SS 1LE with 455hp and an amazing handling pkg. Sorry.. I don’t...

Lol. On point. Toyota is staying over 300. So if we offer 350 people should be rejoicing. Toyota is so wrong at so many levels with this car.. there isn’t a point to even discuss performance aspects of this car. Hoping it looks nice once they remove that silly camo.

I think we can all agree that this car won’t be a bench mark of any performance metric and won’t offer any segment leading spec. Besides the name ‘supra’ ... I don’t see anything positive about this car that’ll make a person that knows nothing about A Supra to say.. hey.. let’s take a look at...

MKV with a Toyota power plant > a standard issue BMW inline 6. It’s not that hard to understand that.. but Toyota thinks otherwise. Or they just used it as a need to justify buying a Zupra from BMW.

100% agree with this. Toyota’s R&D failed utterly in finding out what the market is like and invited a bunch of nobodies to drive the preproduction BMW. Having a BMW motor in a Supra was a mistake from the beginning. Oh well. They can call this car something else and it’ll fix everything.

US Toyota dealers are under the impression they are getting a golden goose. They’ll drive the AMV up and make this car an expensive / tough aquisition. It won’t be until the car’s been in the market for a while that those AMVs will subside / not exist. By that time.. given that this car just...

@metzger Talking about buttons... you reminded me of this video. Lol Enjoy if you like Jeremy Clarkson

Yeah.. I’ve spent decent time in all of them except a 3KGT. From a pure driving experience.. I love the Z32 even more than the JZA80 due to the responsive motor that feels like a small V8. Functionally Z32s interior is awesome but I’m just talking about how it looked.

Z32 had a cluster of switches around the gauges as if there wasn’t room anywhere for HVAC buttons. NSX was done nice. RX7 was beautiful but you can’t keep that door panel from falling apart. 93-96 MKIV interiors had better quality than the 97-98 in terms of door panels and sound deadening...

If this car hits the 60k price point in the US.. I very much doubt it being a success. Initially.. yeah.. it’ll sell. But then it’ll flop. Even the PT cruiser sold initially very well. Lol so why not a BMW with a Toyota logo.

They have a ton of factories in Europe that can build a Toyota motor and ship it to Austria. Not that big a deal. Toyota just doesn’t want to disrupt any of its facilities for this car. If it’s a failure... they’ll just walk away and not have to do anything to any of their plants.

Yes.. probably for the 900 club.

Very much disagree. But to each his own. Can you please give me an example of the cluster fuck you speak of in the MK4 dash?

So.. that last video shows the light switch panel is a direct take off from the Z4. Very unlike Toyota to not have the light switches on the stalk.

Agreed.. lol

Lol. Only the folks that were ever ok with BMW powered Supra are looking forward to a M motor in the Supra. 20yr old Toyota made inline 6 > any motor bmw ever makes

Lol. I think you are mistaking Toyota for other fun loving car companies. What you described makes sense.. but won’t make sense to toyota since it won’t make any money.

Moral is low.. we need something interesting to talk about.. it’s time for A70 positivity