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A separate thread for "official photos from Detroit" would be great. Hard to tell what is real and what is not with so many images floating around.

https://www.topspeed.com/cars/toyota/1967-1970-toyota-2000gt-ar10869.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_2000GT Continue reading... In either case. The engine was not only Yamaha, but Toyota also. What do I need to fact check before posting? Nothing I stated in my original sentence is...

450 + manual would be great.

Yamaha did not build the 2000GT. Yamaha modified the head for an existing six cylinder Toyota motor for it. I think most of those that "complain" though, just wanted to see progressive lineage to the 2JZ engine, which also had a Yamaha tuned head. Now whether the economies would allow that is a...

Who knows. Only time will tell. The first seeds towards possibly obtaining that status will be planted by Toyota tomorrow. Over the next months and years we'll find out what the market really thinks of it. I certainly don't think its an instant classic and it does have big shoes to fill.. again...

With many MKIV Supra owners often having multiple cars, the values creeping into 6 figures, and many cars at 1000hp+ through triple/quad disk clutches its no surprise. I daily drove and tracked my first MKIV for years before it was retired to occasional sunny day spirited drive duties. A similar...

As it should be.. we're talking progress of nearly 30 years of engineering and technological advancements. No one is doubting that. It would be a complete fail if it wasn't. That said, a flash tune and a downpipe is all it took the MKIV to reach 400hp+... 20 years ago. Just sayin'...

Get ready to hear the same story a lot more over the next few weeks and months. There'll be those who love it and those who hate it. It'll be a mixed bag of nuts, just like the car itself.

Hold on.. let me get the popcorn :popcorn:

Looks great from this angle.

What captivated me back in '98 is what still captivates me about my MKIV today among other things, are the stock body lines.

No, I want a high performance car that punches not only high in its own class, but in the class above its own like the MKIV did for many years.

Maybe on a pre-school level...

That is my guess also. Whether its due in part of not stepping on the Z4 sales or with the higher performance version on the horizon.

You must really enjoy reading dealer sales brochures at parties.

Yes, yes, yes, no.

Ie. A performance car.

Underneath, sure. But you can't tell sitting in the car and looking at it.

So what is it then?