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  1. Analysis, Comments & Reactions from the Web about the new Supra

    Of course it's because what the Supra was capable of in simple bolt-on form, up to making 800WHP on the stock engine, trans, etc.. In terms of performance metrics no one has considered a stock MKIV to be hardly relevant, let alone a contemporary world-beater since the 90's. The unbridled...
  2. Analysis, Comments & Reactions from the Web about the new Supra

    Annoyingly FnF unduly gets 1000000000x more credit than it deserves. Even if that movie never existed the US MKIV following, market, aftermarket, performance accomplishments, etc.. would be exactly where it is today. From a market value perspective, prior to that movie Supra values were...
  3. US Launch Edition Supra details and images

    The legit test mules can't/won't get sold; however, it's not uncommon for dealers to sell demo cars with hundreds, if not thousands of miles on them. Regardless of miles, until it's been titled it's still consider "new". At least that's how it used to be.. Those cars you see in malls...
  4. GR Supra resale values: Is the Supra gonna depreciate like the germans? / Expected Depreciation

    There are always the exceptional 'right place, right time' deals that skew the average. So said a different way, per my personal experience 'in the community' since ~2000 and having bought 5 and sold 4 along the way.... At any point in history a clean, decent mileage TT 6sp at/below mid-20's...
  5. GR Supra resale values: Is the Supra gonna depreciate like the germans? / Expected Depreciation

    Even at rock bottom you couldn't touch a clean TT 6sp worth buying for under 25k. That said, everything was cheaper early/mid 00's.
  6. 👣 Official: Toyota Announces Manual Transmission Supra!

    90+% of manual trans failures are driver and/or setup-related. The MT82 in the Mustang is a good example of that --- some idiots manage to grenade them completely stock and others run deep into the 9's without issue. The former being completely avoidable. It's much harder to 'abuse' an auto...
  7. How much do you pay for car insurance?

    The only meaningful comparison on insurance premiums is the cost relative to other cars you own/insure. Wayyyy too many factors to reasonably compare to others, even in the same locale. The whole 2 seat vs. 4 seat, 2 door vs. 4 door, etc.. really means nothing in today's insurance premium...
  8. US Launch Edition Supra details and images

    Dealers will always play whatever games they can to benefit their bottom line. There were dealers tacking on 10-15k "market adjustments" on Civic Type-R's upon release. I'm a capitalist so I can't really fault them at a fundamental level. Considering TMNA is encouraging the game: You...
  9. US Launch Edition Supra details and images

    If they're refusing a deposit then I'm guessing they're gearing up for a bidding war. :bat:
  10. GR Supra resale values: Is the Supra gonna depreciate like the germans? / Expected Depreciation

    Resale will be VERY largely dependent on reliability and maintenance. The primary reason BMW's depreciation is absolutely abysmal is post-warranty they can quickly turn into a dumpster fire. And FWIW, the reliability stigma is what stokes much of the cynicism for this car; especially from MKIV...
  11. US Launch Edition Supra details and images

    Did they take a deposit? If not, even being first on the list generally doesn't hold much sway with dealers; especially if they're already priming for a bidding war. Also, my experience is paying "cash" can actually be a disincentive for the dealer. You're likely to have a bit more leverage...
  12. Have a look at the Supra's bare chassis and drivetrain

    I see what you're saying now; I misunderstood your previous post. In that case whether it's V-band or bolted flange doesn't really matter unless space is a big constraint (which could be the case). Then the question is can you cast or fab a head-to-turbo adapter and still have the inlet/outlet...
  13. Have a look at the Supra's bare chassis and drivetrain

    Huh..? That V-band is only to mate the downpipe/cat to the exhaust housing outlet. Considering the manifold, CHRA, internal WG, etc.. is all one cast component, the path of least resistance for a turbo upgrade will be to machine the OEM housings for bigger compressor and exhaust wheels. Also...
  14. Motor Trend Dyno Results: How Much Power Does the 2020 Supra Really Make?

    Ah.. Shift Fast right? I don't know those guys personally but a good friend and shop owner of mine works with them occasionally.
  15. Motor Trend Dyno Results: How Much Power Does the 2020 Supra Really Make?

    When using Shootout Mode, Dyno Dynamics numbers should be relatively consistent between other DD units. They're not reliably comparable to other dyno types, but consistent among themselves.
  16. Motor Trend Dyno Results: How Much Power Does the 2020 Supra Really Make?

    That's a too-common misconception that regrettably gets parroted over and over. The reality is a MD will read however it is calibrated and not higher or lower than X. They can be calibrated to effectively mimic DJ numbers and anything in between. That's the fundamental challenge when...
  17. Crash Supras on Public Roads

    That's an SC
  18. Analysis, Comments & Reactions from the Web about the new Supra

    Unfortunately the SS was a complete marketing fail by GM. No one knew it existed until they were practically giving them away. The G8 GT/GXP and the GTO all sold relatively well in comparison. RIP Pontiac...
  19. 2020 Supra goes 0-60 3.8s & 1/4 mi 12.3s in C&D instrumented test

    It's easy to Monday morning quarterback and then claim vindication. Until very recently the lame specs were all of the info any of us had to discuss. I've personally owned, built, raced, etc. dozens of sports/performance cars so I know a thing or two about real world performance vs "on paper"...





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