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  1. 2020 Supra goes 0-60 3.8s & 1/4 mi 12.3s in C&D instrumented test

    "On paper" it was a reasonably logical assessment at the time. The 370 has an obvious TQ deficit, but that can play out in different ways. Much of the fuckery could've been avoided if Toyota didn't sandbag us with the BS HP/TQ specs.
  2. Info on Supra?

    Ehh.. If only that were true.. Elaborate PCV, EGR, etc.. solutions are developed by OEM's purely for emissions requirements. Emissions aside, short or long term, there is absolutely zero benefit to recirculating oil mist and hot exhaust gases back into the intake. It's ultimately detrimental...
  3. Take a look at the interior of the 2020 Supra

    That render looks more like a (poorly done) attempt at melding a C4 Corvette dash. It looks funky in part because it doesn't jive at all with the untouched passenger side. FWIW, the C7's interior is by far the best modern representation of the drive-centric fighter jet cockpit, IMO.
  4. Car & Driver Dyno Results: The 2020 Toyota Supra Makes More Power Than Toyota Claims

    Any details to share on the boost curve? How much boost, does it taper down through the rev range or hold consistent?
  5. Car & Driver Dyno Results: The 2020 Toyota Supra Makes More Power Than Toyota Claims

    Any confirmation (or denial) of engineandturbonoises.MP3 being pumped through the speakers?
  6. Toyota "Preparing" Hotter Supra GRMN, Says Chief Engineer

    :coffee: My assessment: He was not capable of separating his wild opinions and emotions from facts, and when called out on his BS he had a tantrum or five. Mods intervened, threads/posts were deleted. He then posted a forum auto-obituary here and now he's back over on Supraforums commenting...
  7. Toyota making new parts for MKIII and MKIV Supra.

    Ugh.. That was speculated.. Assuming they reproduce the disco'd interior parts that doesn't do use LHD guys any good. :(
  8. Car & Driver Dyno Results: The 2020 Toyota Supra Makes More Power Than Toyota Claims

    Mathematically HP=TQ at 5252RPM. The nuances of the WinPEP software and whether you force scaling or not, does not change the calculation.
  9. Car & Driver Dyno Results: The 2020 Toyota Supra Makes More Power Than Toyota Claims

    Yeah... That's not at all how that works. HP and TQ always intersect at 5252; perhaps you should look up the formula. In WinPEP you can adjust the axes however you see fit to compare the curves; the standard is to have both on the same scale, though (which means they'll cross at 5252, per the...
  10. Car & Driver Dyno Results: The 2020 Toyota Supra Makes More Power Than Toyota Claims

    What is? Ideally it should have been dyno'd in 6th gear (1:1).
  11. Car & Driver Dyno Results: The 2020 Toyota Supra Makes More Power Than Toyota Claims

    A lot of the hate could have easily been mitigated by Toyota advertising the actual numbers out the gate vs. sandbagging. I'm sure there are some 'relationship' factors playing into this... Advertised specs or otherwise, my concern is almost entirely around the longer-term with respect to...
  12. Car & Driver Dyno Results: The 2020 Toyota Supra Makes More Power Than Toyota Claims

    Annoyed that 1) they don't show the full graph and 2) HP and TQ are scaled differently (otherwise HP/TQ would intersect at 5252). :rant: Overall very interesting results, though..! I'm not at all surprised at the WHP, based on the 113MPH trap speed. The peak TQ number is really impressive...
  13. Toyota "Preparing" Hotter Supra GRMN, Says Chief Engineer

    Ugh.. Front bumper and wheels are hideous. Obviously just a render, and not a very good one at that. Is Bestcar credible?
  14. 2020 Supra goes 0-60 3.8s & 1/4 mi 12.3s in C&D instrumented test

    Considering more than a few bone stock examples have put down over 300WHP, that ET and trap is certainly feasible, especially in good DA at a real drag strip. Back then much of the acceleration testing was not done at a drag strip, which can really skews things -- no roll out, questionable...
  15. 2020 Supra goes 0-60 3.8s & 1/4 mi 12.3s in C&D instrumented test

    Ah.. 1993 C&D. The 149' C&D record was a few years later --- maybe a 1997 issue? There's nothing mechanically that would have changed from 93-97 that would have influenced braking, so the difference must have been the surface they tested on and/or how the test was conducted. It's possible the...
  16. 2020 Supra (A90) Reviews Compilation!

    :crazy: So which bad-touch comment is it that invoked your tirade? o_O Honestly I can't say I fundamentally disagree with any of his comments, for what they are; they're certainly not unique nor uncommon among a tangible percentage of enthusiasts. He's basically calling a spade a spade --...
  17. 2020 Supra goes 0-60 3.8s & 1/4 mi 12.3s in C&D instrumented test

    Just noticed the quoted 70-0 braking at 160' for the MKIV is incorrect (or at least not canon) --- it was 149' which is noteworthy as it held the record until 2004 when the Porsche GT finally dethroned it by 3'.
  18. 2020 Supra goes 0-60 3.8s & 1/4 mi 12.3s in C&D instrumented test

    Ehh.. It's a driver's race. I've personally watched a '17 GT350 run back to back 12.1 - 12.3 @ 118MPH showroom-stock in pretty terrible DA (summer evening, probably ~1600+' DA). They're very difficult to launch, but a driver with some seat time will chip their way down into the 11's as the MPH...
  19. 2020 Supra goes 0-60 3.8s & 1/4 mi 12.3s in C&D instrumented test

    Thanks -- figured it was an extreme longshot.
  20. 2020 Supra goes 0-60 3.8s & 1/4 mi 12.3s in C&D instrumented test

    :pickme: Can you advise the trap speed (and ideally any other details from the timeslip -- 60', 1/8 mile ET/trap)? :)





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