All good! I know it's a vocal minority, but it ends up steering things way off course, and I don't like participating in the wave of negativity. It puts me in a bad mood and then I end up not wanting to say anything... I wouldn't want them to get banned or anything though either, as I think they...
I dont get buthhurt over opinions, but I do find incredibly annoying when you're very negative and demand facts and evidence directly from Toyota when that is clearly in short supply and always has been...
when have I ever had proof of something? It's all based on what I can get from the...
Any and all questions on the Supra or anything else should be posted here or sent via PM. I'm no longer going to comment on other threads (not gonna deal with the bs/negativity).
If you want to see what I have to say, then it will be here for those that care.
I'd say it would be fair to say co-developed, but Toyota had a large hand in this motor. now, that doesn't change it being made by BMW, but there is an important distinction there.
when you ship motors back to Japan and tear them down to nothing and revise and improve all parts for quality and...
IMO, it would be odd if the engines weren't more or less identical hardware wise, and I think any of the QC improvements or performance added would be present on both. It just makes things a lot easier having the same parts backed by the same testing.
That said, they may have some different...
I'm only as good as what the engineers tell me because I'm not on site, but I do trust what they say 100%. They are the ones that made that particular comment, so it's something I heard from them, but I have no reason to believe it's not factual.
For the most part, even when I was attached to...
I'm not on the Supra project anymore, so all I can do is repeat some of what I hear. Other parts are off limits and I'm trusted to not talk about it.
I give these bits and pieces of info because people prefer it and have Pm'd asking to please not stop and/or leave, which is the only reason I'm...
I don't have the internal/component specifics yet or information on why redline may be different.
It was hard enough just to get that bit of info at this point so.
That's what Tada's colleague said... Apparently it was all or nothing, so both cars have the same motor with completely different tuning and transmission shift points are entirely different too.
( btw, BMW has several revisions planned for other motors using the Toyota changes and refinements...
I've been able to get up and close and personal with a few other cars (not Supra) running prototype ZF units, and I'm continually impressed with how fast they shift.
Successful =/= dumping a bunch of money into a new platform, especially when said success is only relative to other sports cars and not all vehicles. that's fine and is all they wanted, but dont think for a moment that the 86 would ever even be mentioned in the same sentence as say Camry or...
Using the TRD brand is the preferred method for Toyota USA executives, but ultimately if Akio says it's going to be Gazoo 100% then they have to go with it. I feel that is unlikely though given the autonomy many parts of the company have and the respect given to that and their individual...
Toyota considers the 86 a success (numbers agree as HKz said), and it's 100% the reason the board greenlit the Supra project... This is also knowledge that is out there in interview form, both from Tada and a few colleagues.
Here is a Toyota site (in English) that details it as 3S-G. Oddly enough, Jalopnik had this link (Im typically not a fan of theirs but anyhow) .
http://www.toyota-global.com/company/history_of_toyota/75years/data/automotive_business/products_technology/motor_sports/index.html
You are pretty close to spot on.
Toyota's official designation internally was 3S-G改 (just means 3S-G modified). There is literature available on this in Japan, but other than that I can't say I have much else to offer.
3S-GTM is a marketing term not shown in any literature to my knowledge...