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Makes sense.., Camry/Accord is too expensive… so let me get a crappy Altima. Also, with discontinuation of several long time stable subpar sedans, I could picture the lowest common denominator gravitating towards the Altima…

I can understand the elitist, pad-yourself-on-the-back-everyday snob driving a Tesla, BMW or even a Prius. So it’s really no surprise that it’s on the list. I can understand a jerk feeling the need to have a pony car. Or a domestic HD pickup truck. No surprises either. But Nissan Altima?? Is...

If you asked me 20 years ago.. I would’ve said BMW 3 series if you asked me 10 years ago.. I would have said a 1/4 ton domestic Pickup truck If you ask me now.. it’s gotta be Nissan Altima’s:rolleyes1: Honorable mention: Dodge Charger, Chevy Malibu, Tesla SUV

This is not so much directed at the OP or anyone in this thread, but I think car “enthusiast” are some of the dumbest people around when they keep talking about this badging/engineering issue when people have been doing it practically ever since cars have been around:dunno: Folks be acting like...

tires…. transmission… I see that the Z fans are still spinning around…

I’m gonna take it a step even further than you both would anyone be interested if this car was offered as Auto Sedan version I would actually be interested in the sedan with an auto? talk about a sleeper! Also, having a sedan body style itself would also essentially take up the previous STi...

Ok, so the new Z may not be a Supra or even a GR86 around the track… but at least it can whoop a** when compared to a… 30 year old Mercedes SL500:rofl: fast forward to 23:08 mark for the Z’s surprise appearance on finally being able to gap something.. for once ?

Although this is not a car for plebs, I do hope that it is what we all hope that it is. It’s great to see Toyota/Lexus flex their ? as well. Hopefully it isn’t just some appearance package body kit with a slightly stiffer suspension and like a random new wing. Toyota/Lexus need a real...

Some people would argue that trucks are not race cars, 1/4 mile demons or freeway on-ramp beasts (and rightfully so) but when I rented out one of these a couple years back… I felt that it had no balls. It felt limp and numb. Sometimes if I closed my eyes, it almost felt like it was rising in a...

Anybody getting s13 vibes from the rear?:hmm:

I would only disagree with the fair part when the cars were judged on styling. I feel like these days, styling is so subjective that If I said this car was pretty, or this car was ugly, those are subjective statements because there’s no quantifier as to why one was ugly and one was pretty. For...

I definitely see and take your point, but I think the reactions are natural. If we were on a FoMoCo forum or a Mustang specific forum, the Mustang would have a 90% favorable rating compared to the Supra or any other car in the comparison as well. If you go to a BMW forum, they’re probably saying...

I think we are in agreement that these are not family sedans or crossovers, and comparing them is a lot more subjective because of the differences between them. The Pony cars (Mustang, Camaro, Challenger) were made to compete head to head. The Japanese sports cars (Supra, Z) were obviously made...

All good, point taken! I am in agreement with you.

There are so many “appearance packages” these days that you really have to be in tune to keep up with which is which. If somebody is really casual, who’s to say that those 3 are all Ecoboost Mustangs, but the difference in bumpers is simply a refresh (newer model year vs. older model)? That’s...

I would agree that the Porsche and Supra are not cross shopped with the same consumer, but in that same vein, one could say the same for the Supra and Mustang as well. Supra is a 2 seater, smaller dimensions overall and weighs a great deal less too. When there’s a sumo wrestler difference in...

No kidding. Some of the American bias reminds me of that old school motorweek video where they tried to compare a Camaro z28 to a Porsche 928 back in the early 80’s.

Only requirements for me Mod friendly - this is what makes it a Supra Class competitive performance (stock) (towards the top of its ‘class’) Affordable - keep it in this price range other than that, I don’t really care about the following: Where it was made/engineered Who made it/engineered...

But it’s a flagship though:( I’m certain a Camry/ES with the RAV4 prime electric motors would also be discouraged because it may “outshine” the the flagship LS500, performance wise, as well :nono:

The thing that gets me is.. why don’t they put out a freaking non-flagship Lexus Sedan with more than 301 horsepower with AWD then?? Even if it cost as much as 2 Camrys, why not??? At least it would make sense to keep the Camry down and away from ‘competing’ with the Lexus that way.:dunno...