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As for visibility - I'm tall, 188cm, and visiblity is bad overall, I would say a lot less view than in 86. I dont see traffic lights when they are higher, where in 86 I have 0 problems. Also the sitting position is higher than in 86 or 718. Its low but I'd like it even lower ;)

Watch milion photos online and take which your feel the most, its your car after all ;) If it was me - yellow or blue.

I'll tell U my view. For reference, I'm in EU, I drive 86 222hp/245nm with short gearing (high 5s 0-60mph), I would rather have light, less powerfull S2000 than 700hp 1900kg Hellcat. I have driven 3.0 a lot on the road + recently some tracking (Supra event on my local track where I lied down the...

So 2.0 B48 doesnt have the standard 3.0 oil cooler, they took it away among other parts to lower the weight. So... do you guys think is it possible to just buy 3.0 oil cooler from Toyota and slap it on 2.0 without issues? Some oil cooling for track would be needed.

Yea, I also heared GR86 is supposed to come to EU but they will show it later than BRZ. But on sale till the end of 2021. Lets hope :)

After 400z disappointment with not-for-eu... tell me this one is comming to Europe. Pls, any1? :eek: @Guff ? :D Looks cool from the side.

He is right, 86 engine is a ticking bomb. They are able to blow even driving normally on highway. On the other hand this inline 6 from BMW is bulletproof unless u push it very hard with tuning. I will take this engine over this Subaru crap any day of the week. Sure, the electronic gremlins on...

GR86 render looks better than that Z there :D Any info about 86 from this issue, any1 knows? :) Since Z is not comming to EU I lost all interest in it...

Hail Zupra :D I dont mind the BMW colaboration at all, this engine is 6cyl art so... Fkin EU, sweet manual 400hp Nissan :<

Not comming here due to emissions.... FUCK U EU :( Looks cool, but Supra still better imo. Great side profile and interior tho.

https://www.motor1.com/news/444011/nissan-z-proto-z400-livestream-debut/ ;)

It seems to sit high above the ground, too high, esp rear....

No, it will be like 90% production version already (look GTR Proto 2005). And looking at whats given so far there is not much to water down since the desing is not futuristic or anything anyway, its the oldchsool clean lines. Based on renders I like Supra design 100x more for sure already so...

Imo unacceptable. That should lower the price instantly. Unless its their brand new demo car they plan on keeping for few months for test drives.

Y, esp those lines like "car wont disappoint" or "built 100% in Japan". I think it may come down to pricing, look how good Mustangs sells coz it gives a lot of perforamnce for cheap.

Hahaha, we on exact opposite spectrum I see, as I dont seek straight line speed :D Every1 got their perspective :D That sounds cool btw ;)

The steering feel is the exact reason I didnt even consider original M2 after driving it coz its so fake and unnatural its not even funny, I dont know what car is doing, I can only judge with eyes, 0 response, dead centre. So no, sorry, sports car cant have a bad steering or bad driving...

Lets see the weight tho, if it weights 1600+ kg... everything is heavier and heavier these days.... Also I saw complaints about steering feel in Q60 400, its eletrical assissted and not a good one I heared. But I'm definately interested :)

Gonna be interesting ;) I wish Mazda came up with RX-9 and Honda with new S2000 (like Type-R engine tunned to ~350hp)....

https://www.motor1.com/news/442700/next-generation-toyota-86-rendering/ New GR86 renders by motor1, they took 2much FType inspiration imo. Still, looks quite ok ;)