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The displacement is just a hair up. The designer guy said the base will start below the 2.0. Q60 = 2997cc Z = 3042 cc https://www.infinitiusa.com/vehicles/coupes/q60/models-specs.html https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/threads/2023-nissan-z-official-release-specs-pics-videos-wallpapers.418/

I posted the sales and trims in the old Proto Z thread, but the auto vs manual for the 370Z was about 50/50 throughout the whole 12 years.

To each their own, that's a plus for me. :dunno:

I think pricing will be key. The base Z with the open diff at ≤$40k will still be a better buy than the 2.0 Zupra in my book. Now I can totally see Nissan pricing the performance model at $45k+. At that point how many people will just fork over a little more for a car with a better chassis and...

OMG, 370Z owners were so butthurt. No sense of humor whatsoever. ?

I made another one https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/threads/nissan-z-meme-thread.454/

https://pitpad.com/2021/08/04/a-targa-top-toyota-gr-supra-does-exist-and-we-take-a-closer-look/ Toyota builds a one-off targa top A90 Supra that pays homage to the Mk4 with a removable roof. Based on a 2021 GR Supra, the factory roof was surgically cut, while two 3D-printed composite panels...

You no love me no more... :(

The whole Covid excuse is probably just Toyota saving face with the lower than expected sales of the 2021 2.0. It will be down to 0 by the time the Z is released lol.

What we had for 4th of July.

Personally I would just rather get a C8 at that price point. :dunno:

Looks like Danny is bored again. :p

Yeah it's the real deal. It says so in the press release. ?

C&D is also saying "we expect a price somewhere in the $70,000 range..." https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a36903486/2022-lotus-emira-revealed/#:~:text=The Emira will have a,sale date in early 2022.

787 for June. Slightly down from May, but still not bad. https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/toyota-supra-sales-figures/

So the cock teasing begins. :popcorn:

The MT rate for the F80 M3 is about 30%, idk about the M4. I guess that would be right about where a "MT Supra" would be as well. Agree, no arguments there. The more the merrier. Yeah, maybe if this thing had the typical 8-10 yr life cycle. Then maybe I think there could possibly be a chance...

Correct, but that's the only sales numbers we have from Toyota. Any guesses on a hypothetical manual J29 is just that, a guess. How about we use something closer and more intune to the Supra. Manuals make up roughly half of M2 sales. While the C7 debut half of buyers chose a manul. Granted that...

I feel a lot of us keep repeating ourselves, but here it goes again. Nissan will offer the Z35 in a manual because half of Z's will opt for one. Toyota stated in their poll that only 20% of potential buyers said they wanted a manaul. I wondered who they polled, woman and millennials? ? All jokes...