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  1. Why I'm NOT Hyped About The New Toyota Supra

    My 86 spends 90% of its life on track and I went with the Auto just because it felt better than the manual in every way. I think it actually suits the car better. Coming back to the subject of this thread though; Im here because as an ex MK2/MK4 Supra owner I am excited about it but im almost...
  2. Most revealing 2020 Supra prototype spy pics yet, Spotted 3/19/18!

    Very good point. Its the end of the lap so oil/water will be at it hottest. It happened to me once at that very place in my ST205. The 0.9bar factory radiator cap let go after 9mins of 100 degree plus oil temps through the standard oil to water cooler ensured the water didnt want to be in the...
  3. Most revealing 2020 Supra prototype spy pics yet, Spotted 3/19/18!

    The last corner before the gantry/straight has claimed many cars over the years but on the straight itself i’ve only ever seen accidents happen in races like the VLN and even then its usually been down to contact between two cars or something like a tyre failure. Tourists do sometimes loose it...
  4. Most revealing 2020 Supra prototype spy pics yet, Spotted 3/19/18!

    *Edited* Just re-read the article and see that the crash occurred at Döttinger Höhe. Hard to tell where on the straight they crashed but looks like they crashed it prior to the main track entrance/exit going by the look of the fences. I've never seen anyone ever crash there. You're more...
  5. Toyota Supra rumored to be offered with 2.0L turbo 4-cylinder base model

    Ive never heard Toyota themselves refer to it as that. Out of curiosity where did you hear/read this? Publicly available official literature wise there has never been a 3S-GTM Code but being a 3S super fan I would love to be proved wrong. An M in the engine code i’ve only ever seen referred to...
  6. Toyota Supra rumored to be offered with 2.0L turbo 4-cylinder base model

    Fyi - JGTC Supra never had a 3S; it had a 503E race engine. They are significantly different engines and none of the parts are interchangeable. But my understanding is the 3S is loosely based on the 503 design. I’ve stripped down a Rev 2 3SGTE, 3x Rev 3 3SGTE’s, a Rev 3 3SGE and a Rev 5 3SGE...
  7. 2019 Toyota Supra Prototype Reveals Production Intent Design/Parts

    4-cylinder “Celica” version of the car? Notice the different wheels and what appears to be smaller brakes. If I was Toyota... I’d have the Supra out first. Then once all the orders are in and the hype has died down, you then unveil the 4-cylinder Celica version with a totally different look...
  8. Have a look at the Prototype Supra's engine

    LOL This is brilliant. Why have I not thought about this already? Its just like how the 86/BRZ were referred to as the "Toyburu". The Zupra.... classic :)
  9. Have a look at the Prototype Supra's engine

    I know. But unfortunately people still buy BMW’s ;)
  10. Have a look at the Prototype Supra's engine

    The M cars are pushing big numbers these days. If they want to push those numbers even higher it would make sense for BMW to get help designing/building their S58 with the company behind the legendary 2JZ.
  11. Have a look at the Prototype Supra's engine

    I totally agree :) I expect the regular 6-cyl Supra and the GRMN to share what is essential the exact same engine. Probably a little extra power though as the yaris grmn/86 grmn had more power than normal. Historically the Supra always had a hand me down engine from the big Toyota saloons...
  12. Have a look at the Prototype Supra's engine

    Turns out I'm not the only one going by other peoples responses lol I don't care if I come up against a 20,000bhp Civic.. its still a Civic. Instant fail. Also going after crazy power numbers is kinda stupid unless you are actually trying to build a non-street legal dragster. A good road car...
  13. Have a look at the Prototype Supra's engine

    I hear what you are saying but I hate BMW mostly because their build quality is poor. Every component is designed to last long enough only to cover the warranty period and then cost the owner mega bucks. And generally BMW owners exude this stuck up superiority that their car is better than...
  14. Have a look at the Prototype Supra's engine

    Am I the only one that doesnt want an Iron Block? Id rather have an alloy/aluminium block and less weight over the front axel. I recently drove a friends MK4 after being out of Supra’s for around 10years. I forgot how nose heavy the 2jz makes the car. I’d be quite happy with a derivative of...
  15. Have a look at the Prototype Supra's engine

    I cant fault your logic, but like a lot of people I just hate BMW’s. I love the Toyota brand and how they do things. Id actually honestly be willing to pay more for the same car with Toyota badges. And besides, maybe I want a coupe and not a roadster. But there is also the imagine you want to...
  16. Have a look at the Prototype Supra's engine

    Why would it be AWD? Only Celica GT4’s were 4WD. Regular Celica’s are either RWD or FWD.
  17. Have a look at the Prototype Supra's engine

    Good point, the smaller engined car would be a better fit for the Asian markets taxation.
  18. Have a look at the Prototype Supra's engine

    I dont think they will loose money if they brought a 4cyl to the US. But yes lets come back to this thread in two years time and see who was right :) lol I agree. I suspect it’ll be a European only model. It would need to be a big seller to warrent US/Asia sales.
  19. Have a look at the Prototype Supra's engine

    Exaclty, thats why I said.. You can’t have the Celica and the 86... they are too similar. Kill off the 86 and replace it with a new Celica. The 86 was about £5k (approx $6.5k) more expensive than originally planned because of the strength of the Yen. But this built in Austria should help...


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