Possible Debut at Tokyo?

[Craigy]

Sooooooo can we assume that Toyota delayed the debut because they realized the current car they have is not worthy of the name "Supra" and went back to the drawing board?

That's the only excuse I'll take at this point.

There was a recent article someone posted on here stating that Toyoda drove the prototype and demanded more performance, so they had to go back to the drawing board to some extent. Could have been BS but I'll keep my hopes up.

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[solidsamir]

Well, it's slated to start production in November of 2018 and will be sold as a 2020 model (coming out in fall 2019), so we are quite a long ways out.

The Z4 on the other hand is apparently supposed to be on sale next fall, so a full year ahead of the Supra.

Welp, that gives me 2 years to save more money in anticipation

 

[Sunspot]

Six + years from concept to production? yikes I'm beginning to think someone dropped the ball somewhere.

 

[NYC_Supra]

Go up to each booth and say “gakkari”

 

[bogglo]

lol. looks like am back to lurking in the shadow. The whole Show was flop. I think 2020 would be more interesting.

 

[HKz]

Six + years from concept to production? yikes I'm beginning to think someone dropped the ball somewhere.

the length of time is interesting especially considering the 86 project took roughly 4 years from the very first internal concept to the production reveal in tokyo. the positive is perhaps this means the supra gets more unique components separate from bmw

 

[Captain_Kirk]

Were you guys still able to do a Q&A with someone from Toyota?

 

[johnny_10196]

I'm ok with a six month delay if that means we're getting a real MK4 successor and not some lame half @ss attempt at a new Supra.

 

[vb22]

Did the Z4 concept looked big? Larger than the E89 and 86?

Guff just updated his OP on this matter. But I don't think the concept was scaled up for show like with the FT-1. BMW designer has stated the new Z4 will have a longer wheelbase than the outgoing model and that the concept's proportion will carry over to the production car.

 

[Captain_Kirk]

Maaaaaannn....
Sad panda lol.

I guess now we wait for Detroit ?

I say Chicago to mark the MK4's debut.

http://www.chicagoautoshow.com/

 

[Mr.Jay]

the length of time is interesting especially considering the 86 project took roughly 4 years from the very first internal concept to the production reveal in tokyo. the positive is perhaps this means the supra gets more unique components separate from bmw

Development on the twins took longer to get going though as Toyota original had to build a prototype using a chopped up impressive before Subaru folks would even consider it

But I too am hoping them reevaluated the car and looked at the badge they were using and thought it needs to be more

 

[HKz]

Development on the twins took longer to get going though as Toyota original had to build a prototype using a chopped up impressive before Subaru folks would even consider it

But I too am hoping them reevaluated the car and looked at the badge they were using and thought it needs to be more

longer? The internal prototype was created in 2008 and the production reveal in Tokyo was in 2011.

 

[A70TTR]

Development on the twins took longer to get going though as Toyota original had to build a prototype using a chopped up impressive before Subaru folks would even consider it

But I too am hoping them reevaluated the car and looked at the badge they were using and thought it needs to be more

there was also a pre-subaru collab prototype that had already undergone some development using the 2ZZ... like you said, that got trashed and then everything started from scratch with some decent disagreements to start.

Tada said (privately), the crossover from working as purely a Toyota team to when Subaru came on board was tough for a majority of the engineers. there were some other sentiments too, but I'm not going to share them for several reasons.

 

[Guff]

Guff just updated his OP on this matter. But I don't think the concept was scaled up for show like with the FT-1. BMW designer has stated the new Z4 will have a longer wheelbase than the outgoing model and that the concept's proportion will carry over to the production car.

Did the Z4 concept looked big? Larger than the E89 and 86?

Yeah, bigger than both the outgoing Z4 and the 86 for sure. But again, who knows what the actual proportions will be.

Were you guys still able to do a Q&A with someone from Toyota?

Nope. Asked everyone I could find at the Toyota area and they either didn't speak English, or they just told me that they are only there to talk about the cars on stage. Most questions about Supra just returned confused stares. I looked everywhere for Engineer-y types and specifically, Tada-San, but I found nobody. Toyota really is treating the Supra as if it doesn't exist right now. At this point, friends in the industry are telling me to keep eyes on Gazoo Racing, but that's about the extent of the information I have.

 

[Guff]

UPDATE 2: Here's the coverage of the Toyota Event. Nothing too special, unfortunately, but still nice to see some of these concepts IRL.

Beyond the Mobility Concepts, there were a few cool cars, such as the new Toyota Century:

And of course, the Toyota TJ Cruiser Van-Thingy:

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Then they had the Yaris WRC Car, which was definitely cool to see:

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