3rd gen G29 BMW Z4 (2019-202X)

[SS900]

I like BMW’s more than Toyota’s by far but I love my A80 that I have owned for 20 years. I am disappointed that the A90 is not a true Toyota but I am over it and will still be interested if it’s a fun car. I just changed my perspective on what this car means to me.

What I am trying to do (and failing at it) is to keep information on point. Before I joined this site I read a lot of rumors being passed around as facts. It was a waste of my time, so when I see comments being made with no basis to it I say something, hopefully I can save the next guy reading it some disappointment later on.

There is a lot of wishful thinking around here, i’ll Be the voice of reason for now and if I am proven wrong at the end i’ll Be the happiest camper here.

Back to the topic.

A post was made pointing out a comment that says BMW designed the A90 per Toyota’s request which is to be assumed the same as the Z4 (why would bmw change it later?) and let’s hope that Toyota took the Z4 and made enough changes mechanically to truly separate the two cars from one another and not just looks wise. The main thing we do know now is that BMW designed (mechanically) the A90 initially and gave it to Toyota to do as they wish from the sound of it. I really hope that is true as it sounds that maybe Toyota’s hands are not as tied as I thought. Time will tell.

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[supraboi]

@Mike Myers I'm assuming you speak German. Is the Google translation accurate?

 

[Matador]

Thuferin thuckatash.

 

[Spilner]

why does it look like that fog light was placed at the last minute?

 

[SS900]

Overall a nice car. Has a little bit of awkwardness to it but i’m Sure it looks much better in person. Personally i don’t like convertibles and it’s too small of a car for me but it should be fun to drive.

 

[Spilner]

So this is how it would look if the black bars were colored in

 

[tfoxyr]

why does it look like that fog light was placed at the last minute?

It must be pedestrian detection or some other sensor if you mean that little round plastic under the headlamps

 

[SS900]

From this perspective it’s just a little off to me.

 

[BRZer86]

From this perspective it’s just a little off to me.

Not that it’s a bad thing, but it screams Kia Stinger front-end.

 

[Spilner]

heres the Z4 in white

 

[LEG1T]

What has been said in the interview is quite stark and really the first time we are hearing something different in regards to relationship..

Toyota ordered a car from BMW. BMW fulfilled the order and Toyota presumably made changes.

Straight talk.. The interview leads us to believe that it was less a collaboration and more of a modification.

This whole thing is confusing and really contrary to what was expressed by Tada, so I’m even more unclear than before lol

 

[Spilner]

@Mike Myers I'm assuming you speak German. Is the Google translation accurate?

What has been said in the interview is quite stark and really the first time we are hearing something different in regards to relationship..

Toyota ordered a car from BMW. BMW fulfilled the order and Toyota presumably made changes.

Straight talk.. The interview leads us to believe that it was less a collaboration and more of a modification.

This whole thing is confusing and really contrary to what was expressed by Tada, so I’m even more unclear than before lol

The BMW head was being arrogant

 

[Mike Myers]

@Mike Myers I'm assuming you speak German. Is the Google translation accurate?

Yes, it is. Maybe my English is not the best at all, but the words spoken by Ederer are simple and straight.

There are some more curious things he said. What he said about the transmission sounds to me like there won’t be a manual for the Z4. The translation is a little mix of google and mine:

BimmerToday.de: Eine wichtige Frage für puristische Fahrer ist auch das Getriebe. Wird es weiterhin Handschalter geben oder setzen Sie flächendeckend auf Automatik-Getriebe?

Andreas Ederer: Wir werden auf jeden Fall alle Modelle mit dem bekannten 8-Gang-Sport Steptronic Getriebe anbieten. Das Thema Handschalter bringt zu viele Nachteile beim Verbrauch als auch bei der Sportlichkeit mit sich.

BimmerToday.de: An important question for purist drivers is also the transmission. Will there still be a manual or do you rely on automatic transmissions everywhere?
Andreas Ederer: We will definitely offer all models with the familiar 8-speed Sport Steptronic transmission. The topic of manual transmission brings too many disadvantages in terms of consumption as well as sportiness.

That really confuses me, because until now it sounded like MT would be Z4 only and now it sounds like “no MT for Z4” (and even no MT for the Supra).

 

[Mike Myers]

The BMW head was being arrogant

Absolutely! As far as I like BMW, I’m ashamed about what Ederer said and how he did it.

 

[SS900]

He has zero interest to promote another brand, his focus is the Z4, I don’t think he was arrogant at all, just a straight and simple answer to move things along from Toyota and the Supra. That’s just business, he isn’t looking to please Toyota fans.

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