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Lol, yes, you are correct on that matter. I should have been more specific as in start up and idle, the car was sooo loud. But revving it and flooring it it sounded like a banshee out of hell!!

Especially in CSL trim. Too bad that never came to the states. But the E46 M3 is hit or miss for most, some can’t stand the rasp and some love it. I loved mine with the eisenmann exhaust, sounded more deeper. I also owned an e60 M5 with full exhaust and that thing sounded like an American...

True, was referring specifically the gt350. (I’m used to sports cars 3300 pounds or less, lol) For the money, and the amount of performance you are getting is hard to beat.

I agree it is all relative, like a comparison of an E9X M3 vs a C63 from the same era.

Never said you did and I couldn’t care less if you built 1000 cars or not, was not my point I was making. Wasn’t Directed at you.

That’s faster than the Shelby GT350. Low 11’s completely stock for a GT, I am not so sure, but wouldn’t be surprised if it did. (I’ve seen them hit high 11’s) https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/amp14749697/2018-ford-mustang-gt-0-60-quarter-mile/ Still can’t get over...

That’s cause some people just look at hp figures and call it a day. Nothing to do with chassis, driving dynamics, etc... even though the Z is over 10 years old, but, but...... it has similar hp figures to the Supra, lol.

That’s why I never looked at cars “on paper” specs whether it’s a Porsche, Mustang, bmw, etc. “on paper” specs means nothing and is never a telling sign of a car, and this certainly proves again it can compete against cars that cost more.

Lol, I remember idiots on here comparing the Supra and the 370Z as competitors. Where are they now???:rofl:

Just like your bias’s and disdain for this car, you can’t stand when people are praising it and giving it a positive review. You jump for joy any negativity it receives and call everyone a “fanboy” hmmmm, you are doing exactly the same as what you are saying others are doing. The fact of the...

Very true, haha I’m 6’2 and it’s a work out, lol. I’ve driven my car straight for 2 to 3 wks time, but definitely not a daily driver. When I get back in the Mercedes GLE, i am so grateful of the ride quality.

Here we go again.... lol Obviously you aren’t familiar with bmw and their underrated engines. People like you will never be pleased, always finding fault for whatever reason. Plus you aren’t even in the market for this car, and already posted many comments on your disdain about modern cars and...

You want that kind of power go American or euro, lol, Japanese don’t do that sort of cars, and if they did, they are 100k+ Name all the Japanese cars that have 400 hp or more? Not many, on the top of my head. Current cars would be: NSX, gtr, rcf, lc500, gsf, Q60 red. Two are sports cars, and...

Since when did Lexus have a LC500 with a 3.0 V6? Or even a 3.0 motor for the matter? And one with 500 hp+? Even if it happened almost no way it’ll be close to that hp figure, only two current Japanese cars that have 500+, the NSX and GTR, and both cost over 100k. If it was European or American...

Can’t see why they can’t just do 450 to 500 hp and call it a day, lol .

Are these the “special” cars supposedly mentioned by performancesound on here?

Lol Do you know if the S58 is a possibility or more a tuned version of the current?

I’ve read they are having trouble developing the new one, with electric or no electric? Revised same platform as the current, price going to go up, that sort of thing.

The Germans have been doing this for decades and are far worse now. Lol. Audi - Base, S line, S, RS Bmw - Base, M sport, M, M competition, M CS, CSL/GTS Mercedes - Base, AMG sport, AMG, AMG S, black series Same with Porsche

Love the E9X for the V8, but imo, that was it, getting up there in weight and I hate the steering. Lol