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They stress the fact the car is not about numbers cause they are probably embarrassed off the numbers. Meanwhile you can see the car is all about the numbers when it comes making money but.. from stats perspective.. the feeling is more important. Not the numbers. Pathetic.

Where have you been? It’s been discussed that all they are offering is a damn automatic. No manual.. no DCT. Nothing. Just a middle of the road car that happens to be borrowed from BMW and they did some suspension tweaks on.

C&D is the only one I’d believe. Not sure how significant those Australian mags are... Chris Harris is not a middle of the road car kinda guy. He like over the board.. extra.. blow your brains on the wall kinda cars.

Fair talk.. and it provides a lot of space for the aftermarket to capitalize on.

Meh.. no one cares about the RHD market.. booooo

Just as expected. Middle of the road car.. nothing spectacular nothing trashy.. just a middle of the road car. Mediocracy is Toyota’s speciality!! They even made a BMW feel mediocre ... lol

Lol. Get ready to be blown away with amazing news!!

Yeah.. I think maybe a 100lbs difference. Not the 200-300lbs difference that people are hoping for. And this will probably be one of the last spec they reveal just like what we are seeing with the Z4. Just like everything else being middle of the ground with this car.. I don’t see this being any...

So you think your first car (BRZ/FRS) is not water cooled?

Sure..

One day I’d like to own one of these in the US.

I can name many more that have not prior to a proper debut as well.

This whole strategy in driving it before seeing it only means one thing... Hey it drives better than it looks.. so don’t dismiss the car simply based on looks (doesn’t say much for its looks though)

Oh lord.. that looks sexy. See how nice that looks!! One day I’d want one of those.

They sold their soul to have the flagship car made by BMW.. might as well go the extra step and swallow their pride and make things work again with Getrag

:( the stress is real.

Meh.. Getrag is not the be all end all for transmissions. There are tons better out there.

Hey all I’m saying is also cater to the enthusiasts. Don’t leave them out. Looks at the auto Supras of the past vs. manuals. Look at what’s more desirable.

I get what you are saying.. they are just trying to capitalize on the name with a poor attempt. Well it’s too late now to change anything etc. Toyota will have a BMW as its flagship car for years to come and if this doesn’t sound bad.. not sure what else will. Founder would say.. we allied with...

Yeah.. agreed. Now this abortion is comparable to Honda Civic Type R as even that FWD car is faster than what we are getting with the Supra name. This world would be better without this car being called as a Supra. But Toyota has no concern for tradition, honor or doing the right thing. For them...