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I asked a similar question, but sort of to the opposite point. It's not like we're on some secret, encrypted channel here, and the tuning shops are openly advertising this service. Toyota will almost certainly get wise to swapped ECUs, and the discrepancies caused by changing the ECU back might...

So here's a question. Normally, if you disconnect the ECU from power, your emissions readiness codes are reset, and the ECS has to relearn some things. Putting the locked ECU back in before service sounds great and all, but would that draw any suspicion?

So a guesstimated $14k or so to get to 700WHP? That seems...steep, with having to drop the engine to replace turbos and all that. What's that costing folks on their Supras? Seems like a Pure Turbo replacement, tune, and maybe E85?

It's been under all our noses all along. They've been testing hydrogen combustion engines, to the point of racing one. Clearly, this all-Toyota Supra is going to be hydrogen combustion.

I’m betting there’s some form of EULA that is implicitly agreed to or buried in the service paperwork that was signed. And almost certainly, that says that Toyota are not responsible for aftermarket shenanigans not working after standard, factory approved service (or recall in this case). It’s...

Well shit. Maybe I’ll just buy like three of those from the dealer and some spray paint.

I was coming back home well after dark last night, and a wild shredded tire suddenly appeared right in front of me. I did my best to go around it, but you know, going 75, coming under an overpass in the dark, there wasn’t a lot of advanced notice. I’m guessing this Maxton design lip is cheaper...

Well, mine makes plenty of burbles and small pops, but it's only every once in a while that it does a big ol' gunshot/backfire. I'm sure there are side by side videos of exhaust notes

Did you not test drive the 2022 model? The pops, bangs, and burbles are still there when in sport mode (also the case on the 2020). The 2021+ were apparently tuned so there are fewer pops and bangs, but it's very much still there. And as far as I know, there might be a seat color difference on...

To the point of it being a BMW sold by Toyota, we're already saving the like 15k depreciation the Z4 has. BMW depreciation is so bad that you can buy a used one that's three years old, and it'll still depreciate 30% just because you drove it off the lot

Right, an unmolested, single-owner sports car is going to hold its value better. No matter how much you think your mods are worth, very few people want to inherit the gremlins that come with an aging sports car with aftermarket mods.

Arguably, the low volume might help it keep some value, but it depends on how long Toyota keeps selling it for, if the next generation is an EV or something, and how many are lost to accidents. I think long-term, there's going to be a tuning solution for 2021+, even if it's a few years out.

Could you snag an ECU from one of the wrecked Supras in the salvage registry?

I assume they're off-road only due to crash safety standards?

I'm honestly curious how you did 16k miles on a weekend car. Was it your daily before?

I recall there being dyno numbers on the forums somewhere. Also check n54tech, where they do support for the JB4. It definitely adds torque, but I never got mine on a dyno while I had the JB4 installed.

Won't dyno a Supra specifically? There a reason for that?

All this hype for the manual makes me wonder if Toyota is going to undercut the Z by announcing the 2023 Supra to finally have a manual option sometime next year. I know they've been doing phone surveys lately, and asking what changes we'd like to see.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure my neighbors appreciate it when I don't come into my neighborhood at 1am, aggressively downshifting and letting out a string of firecracker sounds while doing it.

I'd heard (and read a little on the Z forums) that the manual from the 370 isn't great for daily driving, but I thought there was something about them using a different clutch this time?