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People are taking that quote the wrong way. They did not say that Toyota's engineers separated from BMW's 4 years ago to make the Supra, they are saying the Supra engineering team separated from the Z4 team. I guarantee you the Supra engineering team was mostly BMW employees working in Germany...

Enjoy the interior, it may add $20k to the MSRP (if this thing is indeed 60k, this car should have been 40k if they had developed it in house or developed it with another Japanese manufacturer).

Psst, Toyota used to make a cool car called a Supra. It had a super long inline 6 in it, so one of the trademarks of the cars was hoods that went on for miles. People liked that about them, seeing that big hood ahead of you felt great and was part of the appeal of the car. If you want a car...

More Car & Driver retro articles... https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/1994-toyota-supra-mk4-2jz-sports-car

uhm, its so obviously just open. Look at the bodyline around the taillight. Someone hit the trunk release no doubt.

More like non identical twins. Step brothers share no DNA, and even normal brothers isn't quite right, too much different.

Yes, make your own cars (that people care about)! I am eyeing the new 6spd 2.0l powered Corolla wagon though, would make a good DD for the wife's next vehicle. But therein is the problem with modern Toyota vehicles actually made by them, they're what you get for your spouse, parents etc. If you...

You got some good points there too. I never said the z32 was a bad car, I just said sales disaster here. Maybe it sold ok in its early years, but they canned it with all the other JDM greats in later half of the 90s so calling it a sales disaster isn't that far off. Only the NSX soldiered on...

You mean like a 1st gen Tacoma? I just got into these and bought my first truck. Been around Toys forever, but didn't really need a truck till now. These trucks, are... awesome! Mostly because its just the newest compact classic Toyota pickup you can buy. Mines an 03, and in 05 they gained...

More like late 90s\early 2000s. The Beams 3sge, 2zzge, 2/3rz, 2nd gen 1jz and 2js, last gen 1uz, etc were all fantastic motors. Every manual car I've ever owned had user-selectable rev-matching. You just have to get good at using your right foot to turn it on ;) I'm like a 7. Pretty much...

Neither did Toyota, LFA anyone? Now they're building a real car for the masses. Which is something GM might be stepping away from with the next vette and would be unfortunate. About that price (72k), it will be dictated by the Euro to Yen exchange rate, we have to worry about the Euro to USD or...

They spent over 1 billion designing/producing the first LS400, which I assume included the cost of the 1UZ.

Yeah I mentioned that, bit about the pony cars. But we all know how brand and country loyal we enthusiasts can be. There are plenty, myself included, who would never consider an American muscle car, or just a muscle car in general. Yes it's true, in the last decade the Americans have discovered...

Still doesn't make sense IMO. They spent less years developing the mk4 then this, and I don't buy that they couldn't have shared platforms with some Lexi. Anyways, name wise, Celica wouldn't make sense without at least a reskin, and really should have a shorter wheelbase. What does that remind...

Yeah I don't know A70, most FRS/GT86s and GTRs you see are modded to some extent, and the GTR is way more money. The Supra and GTR attract a different crowd.

Yeah but it's a very different time and market now, hard to compare. Keep in mind the legend of the mk4 came into being after the car went out of production. 1 part F&F phenomena, 1 part tuners finally discovering the limits of the 2jz and the chassis. The demand for the car has never been...

What is the deal with the real TRD? Do they even exist anymore? It seems like TRD became so watered down as a truck label that Toyota had to invent a new performance line\racing company\hop up parts lines for actual sporty cars

o_O looking for the puke emojii, not finding it. Nobody wanted this, sigh. abort, abort!

oh shit right, I was thinking of the closed deck/open deck difference for the change from n55 to B series. hmmm, torn about that difference then. Great for ease of rebuilding and high boost obviously, but sucks for the weight gain.

Yeah no kidding, Toyota isn't building shit. I'd be surprised if the new supra even has a single component built by Toyota on it (the BRZ has a Toyota tranny, diff, power steering and EFI system). And I'm not sure the new Z4 could be considered the best BMW, we'll see. We also don't know how...