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  1. Australia - Pricing and Availability Details

    That article is confusing. It is not clear that the Supra is formally ā€˜sold out’ since no allocation method has been mentioned. Are they simply referring to 5,000 ā€˜registrations of interest?’ Because lots of people including me) register interest, then many decide not to buy when final price and...
  2. 2019 Toyota Supra RZ is now sold out in Japan. Update: EU & AU

    As above, total European Supra allocation for production year 1 was just 900 cars. For a region with a population over 700 million people. Please keep some perspective. There was never any doubt they would find 900 buyers amongst a customer base of 700 million. Selling a tiny production...
  3. 2019 Toyota Supra RZ is now sold out in Japan. Update: EU & AU

    Not so amazing if you keep in mind the incredibly low production allocations. All of Europe gets just 900 cars in year 1, Australia gets just 300. Not sure of the USA or Japan allocations, but the Japan one is unlikely to be more than 1,000 given the European ones. It is not hard to fill the...
  4. Toyota Presents World Debut of the New 2022 GR 86

    I hate to be pessimistic, but the snippets of quotes from the Toyota exec in that article do not confirm a next gen has been officially greenlit. If you ignore the headline and Autocar’s own interpretation of events, and focus on the actual quotes they provided, the things he says could simply...
  5. Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 / Subaru BRZ

    The FA24 is new from 2018, and will be emissions compliant in other (larger, heavier) subaru models like the Ascent. So emissions can’t be that bad. Honestly, if making it NA is the thing that penalises emissions too badly, just keep it turbo! In the Ascent it makes 194kW/ 260HP and 376Nm/...
  6. Supra vs Jaguar F Type

    If money is similar, F-Type every day, and twice on Sunday. Sorry Supra, but the F-Type is gorgeous in design, properly luxurious, the supercharged V6 sounds beautiful, and in higher state of tune makes a meatier 280kw to the Supra's 250kw (giving the Supra the full B58 Z4 tune instead of the...
  7. Australia - Pricing and Availability Details

    Couple of quick questions (which you probably don't have answers to): 1) Price? ;) 2) Warranty - will the Supra fall under Toyota's newly extended 5 year warranty scheme? A 5 year Toyota warranty would go some way to alleviating some of my concerns about long term BMW parts reliability with the...
  8. Australia - Pricing and Availability Details

    This is a good point, and I hope they do something similar, in terms of a really competitive price, for Supra. On the other hand, I was just thinking, an overpriced Supra actually strengthens the business case for the 86 MkII, because there is a huge gap between them and no risk of one...
  9. Australia - Pricing and Availability Details

    Don’t be so quick to write them off. With their trick adaptive and magnetic suspensions, and super sticky tyres, they both handle really well now. Camaro in particular is a bit of a track monster and sets impressive lap times, that rival dedicated exotic sportscars costing much more. Camaro SS...
  10. Australia - Pricing and Availability Details

    Lol at $150k. That’s just crazy. That is Cayman S money, and the Cayman is lighter, faster, better looking, and a Porsche! Or if you want Japanese, you can get a Lexus RC-F with a glorious NA V8 for that! A 335HP Supra with the Z4 running gear and the humble B58 engine (used in the $60k M140i...
  11. Toyota Presents World Debut of the New 2022 GR 86

    The rumour last year was indeed that if a 2nd gen got greenlit, they might use the FA24 in NA form. I think that would be the way to go. A hybrid setup with a smaller downsized turbo engine just sounds like unneccessary extra complexity, weight, and cost, completely undermining the spirit of the...
  12. Australia - Pricing and Availability Details

    So going back to pricing speculation, one thing that might lead to an overinflated initial price, is the small allocation. I read just 300 cars for Australia in the first year. If true, Toyota may just put a really high price on it, secure in the knowledge there are easily 300 cashed up Supra...
  13. Australia - Pricing and Availability Details

    Any updates on local (Aussie) pricing or availability? Someone mentioned AUD 125k? That’s crazy talk for 250kW. That is M2 Competition, or Cayman money. Even $100k seems out of touch, given $70k gets a Mustang GT, and even the overpriced HSV converted Camaro SS is *only* $85k. Both offer good...
  14. Who can actually afford the new Supra?

    If rumoured Australian pricing is true (AU$100k), no, I could not afford it now without being financially irresponsible. In a couple of years, when I have paid off my mortgage, and when I was planning on moving on from my 86 into a more powerful sportscar, why yes, I could technically afford it...
  15. "Thank you" to Akio Toyoda, Tetsuya Tada et al...

    Lol. Toyota was never going to reissue the A80 in lieu of the A90. There is no need to pick the A80 body over the new A90 body, which is stiffer, safer, faster, and suits modern taste. Apart from the tacky fake vents, the A90 looks fine, and will certainly out handle the A80 with room to spare...
  16. Will new Supra have to compete with next Nissan 370Z (300Z?)

    That would be very nice. The original Stinger concept car was a nice looking coupe, something 86/BRZ sized. https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/kia-stinger-sports-car-will-arrive-locally-in-2017-41574 That transformed, via a follow up concept later on, into a larger fastback sedan (which is...
  17. Toyota Supra rumored to be offered with 2.0L turbo 4-cylinder base model

    The 4 cyl doesn’t make a lot of sense. A) it detracts from the halo Supra ā€˜inline 6’ image, B) it will probably be really expensive compared to comparable sports cars (e.g. much more expensive than a base 370Z, Camaro, Mustang etc but way less powerful) without being that much cheaper than the 6...
  18. 2020 Toyota Supra VIN numbers

    Great work! And detailed specs! If accurate, we have a definite power figure, 250kW/340HP give or take. Assuming, since it is in Europe, that is the restricted European output with the particulate filter. Still hoping for 280kW/380HP for the AU/USA versions.
  19. Will new Supra have to compete with next Nissan 370Z (300Z?)

    I’m basing my thoughts off the reported European power levels of 330 HP, which is close to 370Z. I fear that Australia (where I am) may get the lesser Euro power level, rather than the 380 HP the USA is likely to see. Torque is certainly higher thanks to turbo, so it should be quicker to 60/100...
  20. Revealed: Undisguised Interior and other cool shots of the New Toyota Supra from Nurburgring !

    Exterior is growing on me. But why does the sole flying buttress on the centre console jut out on the driver’s side, rather than the passenger’s side? It is the very opposite of a ā€˜cockpit’ layout, as it actually looks like it makes reaching for the gear lever more difficult! It actually...





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