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  1. Reviews are in for 2020 Supra MKV preproduction car

    Its weird how they all call them reviews in the title but their technical definition is a "first impression." You learn something new everyday!
  2. Reviews are in for 2020 Supra MKV preproduction car

    https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/supra-coupe-2019/first-drive https://www.evo.co.uk/toyota/toyota-supra/21735/new-2018-toyota-supra-review-has-toyota-built-a-porsche-cayman-beater Don't twist my words, I never said they were equally as rare. (E89s stopped production in 2016 but youre new...
  3. Toyota Supra will come in base and track form?

    Neither supra or Z4 have been high volume cars
  4. Leaked! Rear of 2020 Toyota Supra!

    Luckily in America we have a free market (lol) where consumers and dealerships will compete for price and sales where it will level out accordingly
  5. The MKIV vs MKV Thread

    Paint the picture for me. You named cars that range from $80k to $160k so the segment isnt clear especially since it is hard to consider a NSX attainable and the Z06 a supercar. Performance coupes in general? I am not asking these questions to be an ass, Im genuinely curious as MK4 owners all...
  6. Leaked! Rear of 2020 Toyota Supra!

    I mean yeah of course, we can sit back and talk about price per performance value all day long in logical economic fashion. But that is irrelevent to markups. If the dealer markups the A90 to $120k and someone buys it, it's their completely irrational choice they made, not my problem, not yours...
  7. This is the new Toyota Supra (EU Spec)! Revealed in email from Toyota Germany

    10 years ago when BMW’s first direct injected turbo inline 6 showed issues with damn near every new component they had (as a former N54 owner ask me how I know RIP). The N55 and B58 are different animals I agree stress testing is different than longevity testing. But this is what I’m saying...
  8. Leaked! Rear of 2020 Toyota Supra!

    There are people who pay $185k for a nissan. Of course it will be marked up when it's released, I dont see how that is any sort of issue or cause for concern
  9. The MKIV vs MKV Thread

    At a Macro level, a NSX GTR competitor sounds great I get that, I truly do. But the current NSX and GTR are no longer the cars they once were. The NSX is still hated today among enthusiasts and I don’t think the GTR would be as widely accepted as it is if it wasn’t the first time sold in the US...
  10. Leaked! Rear of 2020 Toyota Supra!

    Yeah it’s a terrible analogy when referring to how cars are purchased compared to phones and shoes, but it’s supposed to represent a case that a select few individuals paying a premium doesn’t set the retail price for everyone. If someone just has to have the car the day it hits the sales floor...
  11. This is the new Toyota Supra (EU Spec)! Revealed in email from Toyota Germany

    I am just confused on why people think that Toyota is blind to BMW reliability concerns. This car would be a nightmare for Toyota if it has the problems of BMW's 10 years ago. This car may not be as reliable as a 4 cylinder Camry but I dont see it being far off of the Toyota average as we have...
  12. The MKIV vs MKV Thread

    What would make a car a worthy successor?
  13. This is the new Toyota Supra (EU Spec)! Revealed in email from Toyota Germany

    That comment section is ridiculous. I can't help but think how different everyone would be feeling if the Toyota and BMW never announced their partnership
  14. Leaked! Rear of 2020 Toyota Supra!

    Okay? People spend a lot of money to be the first with the new iPhone or Air Jordan 93's as well It having dealer markups is not a binary thought when accessing price as "it did have markups" and " it did not have markups." The real factor here is how long it will have dealer markups. If the...
  15. Leaked! Rear of 2020 Toyota Supra!

    $60k today is way less than $50k back then. Those dealer markups only exist if it is selling well so that kinda contradicts your point of it not being a good seller. If it isn't selling well, then the $70-80k markups won't exist
  16. This is the new Toyota Supra (EU Spec)! Revealed in email from Toyota Germany

    Anyone have these pics in their full resolution?
  17. A80 Toyota Supra

    I mean yeah of course. My statement is not to be confused with 'R33 was it's only competition'





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