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government motors teamed up with chevy to save costs in order to bring us this :popcorn:

the mirrors are indeed a disappointment..on some cars, sure, it can work since it won't impede on the body lines but in many cases it looks like blatant cost cutting..i thought we would see body mounted mirrors at the very least. And it isn't like BMW doesn't make cars with them, the i8 has...

afterthought?...plenty of people feel that those were part of the highlights of the concept..seesh..-.-...reading people's posts on aesthetics is as bad as reading politics.. the only objective thing to discuss is how watered down this will be because I too really love the FT1 front end, vents...

...who cares, it is all subjective. Most people I know prefer how a 240Z looks over a Z32..

I'm excited for all of them equally. I want it to be the 90s all over again :popcorn:

Oh I know, I have brought up the $$ question several times. People think we're going to get a $30-50 K USD car but that is a joke, they forget how the MK4 TT Supra was more expensive than most of its direct competitors in the 90s and that the current Z4 barely starts at $50 K like you said...

yes, it would appear this is the first video showing both getting tested together, but none of the clips actually showed the two mules being filmed at the same time...it almost seems like the clip showing the mule with the blacked out wheels was artificially interested in. It is on a different...

indeed, toyota should have distanced the supra name from this project from the start..but then again then they probably wouldn't generate as much hype...meh, still don't understand how any of you were "excited" that toyota's only halo nameplate will actually be a bmw

if that is the case, then toyota is really doing a lot of work here ^^

..so you don't think a BMW chassis with a Toyota body kit + powertrain without the BMW premium prices would be able to steal some potential buyers looking at the M2/M4? This will also most likely have many of same quirks and dilemmas that Toyota & Subaru encountered with the 86 as far as how...

but it takes the profile from the mule pics lol...the real thing so far is indeed tall and bloated

why do you think drift king still plays with his ancient ae86? for many driving a slow car fast is more enjoyable

we'll see...the current Z4 starts at $49 K for the 2.0 turbo and the 335 HP version starts at $66 K and we can bet that it will only go up in price for the new gen. Arguably I don't think BMW will want to make the Supra too much of a bargain between the two models

why not a used GT86? I'm sure there are plenty of used/abused ones, perfect for a project/track car, that are cheaper than 15 K..

this is a bit different, especially price point wise..regardless, I'm not saying this won't happen, I'm with you...the 3.5 TT is currently the most likely candidate but the trade off being this might be more expensive than what we initially thought. how low of a price will toyota put 415 hp/442...

shoulda kept her so you can build the real supra successor yourself by throwing a 2jz in there after this new "supra" disappoints us :headbang:lol i am happy to be blown away/wrong about this whole BMW/Toyota project so I'm holding my breath..still not happy that toyota spends their own time and...

I'm not specifically talking about sports cars, just any vehicle that also focuses on higher performance..Lexus has had several great V8s thus far and this 3.5 TT will be in the new Lexus LS so you see how there is some overlap..if the Supra uses the 3.5 TT there will undoubtedly be some...

meh, sure they aren't BMW but you've been living in a hole if you feel that way because they ain't buick or caddy..they've had the sc, LFA, isf, rcf & gsf..solid performance lineup so far. lexus sure isn't focused on performance but luxury & performance have become so intertwined after the 90s...

yea, well sales were naturally going to tank, it was a dead segment to begin with yet they still did a lot better than expected..sold more than the S2000 did in 10+ years..I admittedly got an auto frs first and then after it got totaled i picked up the manual one, I like them both. The auto is...