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Yeah I am disappointed with Chris review. We all know the bmw partnership ans clearly if we're still here at this point we've accepted it. Let's not forget the A60 had some lotus tuning in there But I would have actually liked to hear about the car rather than his opinion. I do like his stuff...

lastly.... white or red? Thanks mate!

and if it were you, given you have an 86 (I had one too) and a proper-powered 6 speed A80.... would you wait for a manual, or is the ZF8 enough fun? :P

Guff you didn't ask whether those plastic inserts in the seats come out and swap for ones that'll accept harnesses?

lots of room for a 4" dump and mid-pipe

I am considering base it's lighter. screens and shit mean nothing to me

i've watched a lot of reviews now - all/most of the US ones what are the best ones to watch now, that actually give good/new insights and not just shit we've already heard before?

it's a borgie

/cue joke about mass

A60 - the best anyone who disagrees will be banned

not to shit on your parade, but torque is multiplied at the wheels. engine torque is less than wheel torque. it is less than 427ftlbshj at the engine. imagine it like a lever. rotational torque at the engine is multiplied through torque convertor, then gear ratio, then final drive ratio, then...

without doing the calcs (which, without the data on the ZF8 torque converter is nigh on impossible) I'd estimate between 500-550Nm at the engine for the peak torque...

The mustang can't even handle two laps on the track before going into limp home mode.

Torque is a product of gear ratios, diff ratios, wheel diameter, and in this case, torque multiplication through the converter.

Remember torque his multiplied to the rear wheels, not lost, like power. Also power outputs are to DIN specification which states MINIMUM power output. Same for my Benz: 437whp on a car with 456hp advertised

there will be no badmouthing the M1, ever, in this thread or others, or people will be banned! :P

Kind of what I was expecting. Right in the ballpark with the A45 AMG/RS3/M2 etc. However, Toyota AU did an awesome job on GT86 pricing (only 29,990 starting) which was super competitive - so I guess we were all hoping for the same luck on the A90.

awesome, thanks man.

Did they mention why the rear brakes are smaller on the entry level spec? Is it purely a point of differentiation?

yeah, being rear brakes, i am not too fussed.... I'd be leaning towards the GT purely from a mass perspective