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For the Performance trim at $50+k the Z is in no way a Supra killer. But at what $ value would the Z be a Supra killer of VALUE? Would a base Z (40$K) with a performance pack (LSD/Brakes/wheels/tires) priced under $45k be a Supra killer? Or if Nissan could keep the $40k base trim and just add an...

FACTS are why manual transmission and ICE will be extinct soon. It's also a FACT that an A100 / EV Supra will be a superior car to the J29. Emotions are what creates legendary cars like the MKIV because the FACT is is that the MKIV wasn't a superior car to it's direct competitors in the 90s.

2023 Nissan Z/Wheelbase 100.4″ 2023 Toyota GR Supra/Wheelbase 97.21″ 2023 INFINITI Q50/Wheelbase 112.2″ 2023 BMW 3 Series/Wheelbase 112.2″ Adding: 2023 Toyota GR86/Wheelbase 101.4″

I'm just hoping someone on these forums has more info since there doesn't seem to be much technical info about CLAR or the Supra chassis on google/youtube. It may be a little unfair/hypocritcal to say the Nissan Z is sedan based when I haven't found any evidence that the Supra/Z4 aren't. Of...

Rhetorical question, but thank you for the music!

Same same?

Isn't the Z's platform bespoke for the Z?

I would say it's to make the A91-MT cognac leather seem more special and exclusive. If it was supply chain, how is BMW able to provide tons of options?

Isn't the Supra a reskined sports sedan as well? CLAR chassis and various parts from BMW's lineup. Adding: Cammisa also criticized the previous generation Z3/Z4s because they were sedan based as well. I'd assume this would be the same for the Z4/Supra today.

Win-win for the dealer lol

I thought it was weird to not offer silver, but the more I think about it, it's has to be because of the CU later grey A-91 MT to make it appear "more special and exclusive". And same with the red interior being removed for the Premium to make the cognac brown leather to seem more special...

To play on the mystery and ambiguity, could one of these factors be AEB? Which not only affects the Supra, but all newly produced manual trans cars in 2024/25. There are definitely varying degrees of truth in what you're saying, but it also really depend on how we are all individually defining...

We shall see….