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Yeah.. I know. I'm still in line for the Supra. I'm just annoyed really. Waiting waiting waiting.. and Toyota with no information and a backwards ordering system doesn't help.. and then you go to BMW and they're product is more pro as is their information and time frames. And price, of course...

Wait.. what?

I think that's being pretty polite. The omission of synced climate control and an external boot release button (not to mention the wind buffeting or the HUD) are really just lazy/poor design choices in my opinion. And while I'm sure the M2 will have its quirls, I don't think BMW's design...

Yeah.. If either car company could actually sell me a car in a timely fashion, I'd just go for it. Both cars are different but (for me) comparable in how much they meet my need: Fast, fun, financially feasible, albeit just.

Thanks. I wonder if the stitching is still red for MY23?

No. No. What I meant was that the Supra climate controls can't both be controlled from the drivers side - ie, synced. It's not that big a deal in and of itself but it speaks to poor/lazy design choices.. and that irks me. “We're surrounded by anonymous, poorly made objects. It's tempting to...

In Australia the Alcantara seats are an additional cost option. Can someone with a MY23 with these seats please post a pic?

No markups here but wait time is killer.. BMW is saying if I order today it will be in around September next year. May as well just hold on to my Supra spot and hope for the best even though Toyota can't even give me a deilvery date. Ugh! :(

Can I get a Supra with an M2 interior to go, please?

Yeah.. I'm struggling to stay on the Supra train atm.

For me it's a simple case of better exterior vs better interior. I completely agree with what everyone has said about the exterior of the BMW looking pedestrian.. a bit tough, but pedestrian. And the M2's colours are largely meh. The Supra can't hold a candle to the M2's interior though. It's...

Hehe.. true.

Why? M2 here is about $30k ($20USD) more expensive. M3/M4 are off the chart more!

Yeah I agree. The Supra is cheaper and looks stunning.. But that engine.. that interior.. that boot release.. lol.

You're not helping! lol.

With the release of the new M2 my resolve is waning. The new M2 has the engine everybody dreams the mythical GRMN will receive and an interior that makes the Supra look like a Toyota.. and the Toyota dealers here having absolutely no idea when my car will actually get to me.. I'm thinking of...

Yeah.. it was announced that it would be about $500 more than last year. My price works out at $110k. I think it varies from state to state because of taxes, etc. I gotta be honest.. with the wait time and the way my dealer has no fucking idea when I might actually get my Supra, that new M2 is...

I think everyone figures that if they can charge $100 for some plastic triangles, they can get away with anything! Some insane pricing out there!

That's a fair call. I'm worried about the audio in the Supra. I'm no audiophile but I have a minimum standard and if it doesn't meet it, I'll be spending some cash to gut it and put it right. Hopefully the famous box porting mod, equalizer tweaks and coding out the stupid fake engine noise will...

Ah cool. There's a guy on Facebook who is suggesting it made a world of difference in his Supra. Thought it might be BS. :/