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I never liked the horse analogy when talking about EVs. EVs are pretty much the exact same thing as ICE cars besides how you fill them up. They look the same, drive the same, and any new tech that can be added to a EV can also be added to a ICE car.

I do think cheap electric power for cars is a short term thing though. The world is moving to electric to reduce emissions and use more renewable energy. I would bet there will be a day where it cost more to charge a car than it was to fill up gas.

What Toyota and other Japanese car buyers don`t realize is that every American and European car maker has custom ordering available right now. Myself, friends and family all put in custom orders in 2021/2022 with zero problems from different brands. On average it took about 4-5 months to get the...

I actually think the 3 exhaust tip looks terrible and that also goes for the Civic Type R.

My dad is on the list for a M2 at our local dealership. I think the Supra is rarer and more unique. Plus the B58 sounds way better. My dad struggled getting in and out of my supra unlike my moms M240i. The M2 will be more comfortable and overall better performance car.

I had a few BMWs in the past including a M3. So I knew they made great cars and I really never had major problems with them. But I am far from a BMW fanboy and am always trying new car brands.

I was in the market to buy a Mustang GT but came across a Supra that was selling under MSRP (2.0L model) and was close to the price of mustangs. The Supra was never on my radar until I saw one on the lot and knew I had to have it. I really like the uniqueness of the car and the nostalgia the...

I am in the same boat I understand trust me haha. I just don`t think anyone should stand up for Toyota in this case. Give them no excuse is the way I see. We understand why they do what they do. But it creates a worse buying experienced compared to other companies. We all want or have a Supra...

Every car brand does this but they give the option to also custom order. That`s what people are not understand here. All those cars you see on dealer lots were not custom ordered. Lets also not forget Toyota employees can custom order cars for themselves. The system to custom order actually...

For me basically looking for a black automatic (would take manual also) 3.0L in any spec. Its not like the Supra even comes in many different forms other than the color. But to think its this hard to find one in a reasonable distance is mind blowing. I would love to put a order into a...

Even though every single American and European (including exotics) brand can custom order any car they sell?

Just a heads up the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act only holds weight in court not at dealership. It can protect you but will require legal action. Its not like you can walk into the service department and say the magic words and now the dealership or manufacturer is suddenly forced to pay and fix...

Just wondering, did you get any info on how many people are on waiting list for dealers near us?

I know multiple people who have ordered BMW M cars without any problems this past year. You can even order a Z4 which is made at the same factory as the supra. This is 100% a Toyota thing (or Japanese thing) and has nothing to do with current supply problems. Even if covid never was a thing you...

This is a common thing among Japanese automakers and its needs to change eventually. American and European automakers give the option to custom order it is a disappointment Toyota does not offer it. You can custom order a BMW Z4 which comes from the same factory lol. Friends and family of mine...

No offense to others but wow do the new 2023 rims look way better.

Always use 93 Top Tier of some type. But I overall prefer Shell 93 Vpower.

That would be awesome news. I know Ford does this with their 5.0L V8 engine. In my opinion its the best way to do it.

No one is really waiting by on purpose though lol. Supply is not meeting demand for the Supra and many other cars of course.

I am on the list at Suburban for a black 3.0L and already bought my 2.0L from them in the past. I actually paid under MSRP for my 2.0L in 2021 when the market was even hotter. The 3.0L usually go for MSRP. They definitely do not do markups.