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She's fugly, but she still packs a punch.

People need to stop comparing this to A80's lifecycle. 6 to 7 years is typical of past BMW Zs. Also, normally a facelift happens towards the end of the car's lifecycle. We still have like 3 years to go lol.

Two wrongs don't make a right. :p

I'm not the biggest fan of the 4 banger, but most people can't tell the differences between the NA and turbo A70 and A80. With that said it seems that Tada-san did want to further differentiate the two, but due to timing and the fact that testing on the B48 only started halfway into the product...

Thanks @Mimosa! I kind of wish they had shown off the full kit with the hood glass and mirrors, but still stick neverless.

Not sure, I haven't personally sat in one but all of the people that have did not complain. Granted, they were both pre-production cars and performance trims.

About time that someone makes the FT1 mirrors. I wonder if you can buy them separately?

Yeah, they really need to do something with the bottom section of the steering wheel. Even the unit on the cheap Z looks better.

Yes sir, it's all about image and matching what others are offering. I think it's also Toyota's strategy of trying to stay relevant with the upcoming Z.

I didn't think I would like the tan interior and I still don't. I freaking LOVE it!!! :love:

Well it's 7am in Japan. Maybe a press release will drop when most of us are already in bed lol. ?

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Seriously, many have been asking for a MT since day one. No one has been screaming for a 4 banger version. Well maybe the 10 people on this whole forum that brought one. And one or two of them have sold it to upgrade to the 3.0. :rofl:

I just hate tan interiors in general. That shit gets dirty fast.

Tan seats ??

And in this market some people are just getting what they can. If it were my money I would pick the base 3.0. It comes with enough goodies for me. I'm pretty basic, just give me A/C, power windows, and some kind of infotainment unit and I'm good lol.

Right, I get that. I have said plenty of times that BOTH the 3.0 and 2.0 are way cheaper than their BMW counterpart. The context of the pervious point was who the heck is going to buy a $48k 2.0 when you can get a base 3.0 for not much more. Yes, I do know some people aren't going to care and...

Yikes o_O

We'll probably not going to see any public testing anytime soon since they have their own private testing track in Japan now.

A lot of the comments I'm reading from the MK5 owner FB group says its overpriced. It starts at $43k but a lot of the ones on dealer lots have the tech package that brings it very close to base 3.0 territory.