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Was planning to go with the PMU but the rears are only for the premium rear rotors. Not sure if Hawk DTCs have a pad for my rear base rotors.

Google and Forum search confirm the rotors are smaller, but I cant find definitive info on good track pads for the rears

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So the calipers are smaller which is the issue. There’s only a few companies that specify for the base model. I got csg pads because they specify and have a good selection of track pads.
I did a lot of research on this. It was a pain.
 
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So the calipers are smaller which is the issue. There’s only a few companies that specify for the base model. I got csg pads because they specify and have a good selection of track pads.
I did a lot of research on this. It was a pain.
Thank you so much. ????

Looks like for now my best option now is to go for the Carbotech XP10 or XP12 (probably the XP12 front and rear) or the until my rotors are done and then upgrade to larger rear rotors or BBK with a better selection of pads.

I looked into the CSG pads (EXPENSIVE!!!), that would be my second option.

WIth the spare cash from the carbotechs, Also will upgrade fluid and lines to steel tubing.
 

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Really good member on here, Kaj, had a 3.0 base and tracked a lot. He sold his car but he eventually went with the 3.0 premium caliper size for the same exact reason you’re talking about. There are so many more pads available and much cheaper in that premium size. You end up saving money in the long run, thus paying for upgrading yours to the 3.0 prem size.

At least that’s what I remember others doing in the same predicament who want to track regularly. Hawk DTC 30s (or project mu clubs) would be all you need in the rear. They provide plenty of bite for that rotor & pad size. The rotors are cheap too!

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Really good member on here, Kaj, had a 3.0 base and tracked a lot. He sold his car but he eventually went with the 3.0 premium caliper size for the same exact reason you’re talking about. There are so many more pads available and much cheaper in that premium size. You end up saving money in the long run, thus paying for upgrading yours to the 3.0 prem size.

At least that’s what I remember others doing in the same predicament who want to track regularly. Hawk DTC 30s (or project mu clubs) would be all you need in the rear. They provide plenty of bite for that rotor & pad size. The rotors are cheap too!

Also coming up:

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If you’re interested
I’m looking into what would cost to replace the rear rotors into premium size vs finding pads for what I have until the rotors are done.

wow. This homestead thing looks very interesting. I’m gonna check it out.
 

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I’m looking into what would cost to replace the rear rotors into premium size vs finding pads for what I have until the rotors are done.

wow. This homestead thing looks very interesting. I’m gonna check it out.
Calipers are also different.
 

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I mean realistically you will be just fine with the base brakes. They grab well and the rears aren’t doing the majority of the breaking anyways. Unless it’s a dedicated track car and you’re gonna be burning through pads, it’s probably not worth the swap. Also factor in how long you plan to keep the car.

it was really annoying finding pads because a lot of places didn’t even know they’re was a difference. I had to educate them after getting the wrong pads several times. I just swap my street pads in and then throw the track ones on right before I go. It’s pretty easy in the Supra
 
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I mean realistically you will be just fine with the base brakes. They grab well and the rears aren’t doing the majority of the breaking anyways. Unless it’s a dedicated track car and you’re gonna be burning through pads, it’s probably not worth the swap. Also factor in how long you plan to keep the car.

it was really annoying finding pads because a lot of places didn’t even know they’re was a difference. I had to educate them after getting the wrong pads several times. I just swap my street pads in and then throw the track ones on right before I go. It’s pretty easy in the Supra
thanks. So maybe swap the front for PMU clubs, change fluid and call it a day?

My hpde instructor said: “upgrade the pads and fluid” my OEM brakes got very soft on my last session when I got cocky on the track. ?

Will I have unbalanced braking on the track with just a front upgrade?
 

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thanks. So maybe swap the front for PMU clubs, change fluid and call it a day?

My hpde instructor said: “upgrade the pads and fluid” my OEM brakes got very soft on my last session when I got cocky on the track. ?

Will I have unbalanced braking on the track with just a front upgrade?

I mean realistically you will be just fine with the base brakes. They grab well and the rears aren’t doing the majority of the breaking anyways. Unless it’s a dedicated track car and you’re gonna be burning through pads, it’s probably not worth the swap.
The front will do the majority of the work. Jordan is right and why I run a split (next grad down in the rear) set. But if you continue to track, like to track, bought it for that, you'll end up getting the upgraded calipers in the rear eventually. You won't be sorry you did in the long run. Availability of so many other pads is almost worth the entry.



My hpde instructor said: “upgrade the pads and fluid” my OEM brakes got very soft on my last session when I got cocky on the track. ?
Good instructor. You'll never generate that kind of heat daily driving. Plus, you won't have to worry about losing your track day/time or injuring yourself, others or the car.
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