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What will be Supra's top speed out of the box?


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Obviously this is a loaded question and depends on a lot of factors that we don't know yet....

For what it's worth, I believe the car tops out in the mid 180s in Gran Turismo.
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I think 180s mechanically limited, but in the US we'll get 155 electronically limited.

Never thought this was an important spec for me since I'll never hit the the top speed limit ever. I guess I can understand if someone wants to take this car to a track with a super long straight or maybe one of those 1 mile run events then it's an important spec.
 

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I'd like to think it will be given above 155 electronically limited. I don't believe the C7 is limited.. what is it at, 190? There are much cheaper cars (i.e. Mustang) that are limited at 155. We need MOAR.
 

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The most important aspect of getting to the higher speeds is how fast can I get to 150ish. I'd like it to have the power as well as the aerodynamics to get to 150+ mph in less than half a mile while short shifting by 300-400 rpm, meaning getting up to speed easy without trying "too" hard. Corvettes come to mind...

A lot of muscle cars have the Hp, but also the have the aerodynamics of a brick to get them up to speed quickly.

So I suppose in short, to answer your question, it'd have to be a top speed of 185ish, to accomplish what I'd want it to.
 
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Yeah actual top speed per se isn't hugely important... but a higher top speed typically means that the top end is more accessible in general.

I enjoy blasting into the triple digits from time to time. I also like a car to feel fast at 60, 70, 80, 90 and not just from a dig or low speeds.
 

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Yeah actual top speed per se isn't hugely important... but a higher top speed typically means that the top end is more accessible in general.
Good point.

What's important for me is generally the 30-80 mph acceleration since those are what's going to be used the most in everyday situations and on the highway. But a high top speed never hurts for some bragging rights ;)
 

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Good point.

What's important for me is generally the 30-80 mph acceleration since those are what's going to be used the most in everyday situations and on the highway. But a high top speed never hurts for some bragging rights ;)
Let me preface my post by saying I don't like the thought of a BMW engine in a Supra at all, even if it's the motor from the new M3/M4. But lets just say that it happens, the mid-range acceleration (i.e. 30-90mph) in those cars is ridiculously fast. Electronically limited to 155 mph though.
 

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While Toyota is not spilling any fun info on the upcoming Supra, we can try and predict :hmm:the engine, HP, torque, weight, acceleration, transmission, Price etc. and see who comes the closest:cool:.

What say you?
Here is what I hope/predict :D

Engine: The top engine : 3.5 li V6 twin Turbo [the new engine from the 2018 LS500 ] :nixon:
Power: HP 415 ; Torque: 400 :thumbsup:
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2+2
Transmission: Dual Clutch , Manual, Auto
Weight: under 3400 lbs.
Acceleration: 0-60 : 3.9 sec:yes:.
top speed : 169 mph
Base Price: $45,000 :)
Available: 2019 as a 2020:cry:
 
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^ I like what you've provided but I'd say a manual transmission would be a dream + weight being closer to under 3100 lbs would be nice also.
 

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What we know so far:

Engine: BMW sourced B58 3.0 inline 6 twin turbo
Power: 380hp
Transmission: DCT (I believe a manual will be offered though)
Weight: less than 3500lbs
It will NOT be called a Supra
Basically it's a GT-86 with more power!
This is fine with me.
 

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it weighs 3100lbs in test mule guise (asst engineer confirmed), has only been seen testing with the ZF8 (8spd auto), and as said is powered by a 380hp B58 derivative (bmw leak). It's price range, as outlined by the head engineer, is in the $50-60k bracket.

There's not a crazy amount to speculate on aside from smaller details.
 

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RWD - 385bhp & 1455kg (about 3200 lbs)
Power to Weight: 269 bhp/ton
0-60: 4.5
0-100: 9.8
60-100: 5.3
1/4 Mile ET: 12.57
1/4 Mile Terminal: 112
Dragstrip 1/4 Mile ET: 12.37
Dragstrip 1/4 Mile Terminal: 116
 

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that looks pretty good, only we may see some sort of launch control :D

... but you didnt hear that from me.
 

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it weighs 3100lbs in test mule guise (asst engineer confirmed), has only been seen testing with the ZF8 (8spd auto), and as said is powered by a 380hp B58 derivative (bmw leak). It's price range, as outlined by the head engineer, is in the $50-60k bracket.

There's not a crazy amount to speculate on aside from smaller details.
I wonder how competitive the car would be at 50-60k range assuming the BMW leak specs. The current gen BMW M240i, 335hp/369lb-ft, starts at 45k.. The Infiniti Q60 Red Sport 400 starts at $52k and I assume the next Z (if there is one) will be 10-15% cheaper (maybe mid-high $40ks for the 400hp version) given the fact that Zs were cheaper than G35s when they were released. With that said, the Infiniti is a much heavier car.
 

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I wonder how competitive the car would be at 50-60k range assuming the BMW leak specs. The current gen BMW M240i, 335hp/369lb-ft, starts at 45k.. The Infiniti Q60 Red Sport 400 starts at $52k and I assume the next Z (if there is one) will be 10-15% cheaper (maybe mid-high $40ks for the 400hp version) given the fact that Zs were cheaper than G35s when they were released. With that said, the Infiniti is a much heavier car.
Also, getting closer to 60k would require Toyota to fight an extreme uphill battle against Porsche as the Cayman S starts at $67.7k, but has a mid-engine layout and only weighs 2988lbs.
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