3rd gen G29 BMW Z4 (2019-202X)

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I'm not sure why it has both listed as Canada is North America, but its been stated from multiple sources that the 380 number is not an overboost figure or function. Its the power number without the particulate filter that the EU models are now required to have. I understand it as that is the full 100% of the time power figure for cars without the filter.
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I recall A70 saying the US may not get the 4 banger Supra. Maybe BMW is following suit by just offering two 6 cylinders? 340hp as the base model and the 382hp as the M performance flagship?
 

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I'm not sure why it has both listed as Canada is North America, but its been stated from multiple sources that the 380 number is not an overboost figure or function. Its the power number without the particulate filter that the EU models are now required to have. I understand it as that is the full 100% of the time power figure for cars without the filter.
Canada sometimes gets lower-powered models that don't make it to the US, which could be the case here. The 320i sold here for years before they finally brought it stateside.
 

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Z4 laps Nurburgring in 7:55

In testing by German magazine Sport Auto, the new Z4 laps the famous Nordschleife quicker than a BMW M2.

In a world where sub-seven-minute NĂŒrburgring Nordschleife lap times are shockingly common, a 7:55.41 run seems at first like it wouldn't be newsworthy. That's what the 2019 BMW Z4 M40i did when tested by Germany's Sport Auto magazine, and you know what? We think it's worth talking about.

The raft of cars that have lapped the 'Ring below the seven-minute mark skews our perspective as enthusiasts. Going under eight minutes is still damn impressive, especially for a sporty roadster—not a full-on, mega-powerful M car. Consider, too, that the beloved BMW M2 ran a 7:58 when it was launched in 2015. This seems like considerable progress, at least to us.

And just for fun, I'd like to point out that the new Z4 lapped the 'Ring quicker than the original Porsche 911 GT3, which, in 1999, was the first road car to break the eight-minute barrier, notching a 7:56 in the hands of racing legend Walter Röhrl. Yes, that was nearly 20 years ago, but it's still a testament to the remarkable progress made in the performance-car world. The 996 GT3 was a road-going race car; the Z4 is a luxury drop-top. The fact that they run neck-and-neck on the most challenging track on earth is impressive.

Watching onboard footage of the lap, with Sport Auto journalist Christian Gebhardt at the wheel, we can't wait to have a go in the Z4 ourselves. And have we told you that it shares a platform with the upcoming Toyota Supra?
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a23099489/2019-bmw-z4-m40i-nurburgring-lap-time/

 

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That is lots of seconds if the Supra worked on a 7:40 lap time. And if there's even more power, maybe even a 7:38 time.

Going to see the onboard footage and imagine what it's like
 

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So the Z4 does 0-62 mph in 4.6 seconds. That’s an indication that the Supra won’t be under 4 seconds, probably a 4.4 0-60 give or take. I really want to get excited but I am just not impressed, I understand why Toyota is keeping quiet until the last minute.

Reality isn’t matching the rumors, A lot of hype with this car.
 

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So the Z4 does 0-62 mph in 4.6 seconds. That’s an indication that the Supra won’t be under 4 seconds, probably a 4.4 0-60 give or take. I really want to get excited but I am just not impressed, I understand why Toyota is keeping quiet until the last minute.

Reality isn’t matching the rumors, A lot of hype with this car.
The RWD M2 did a 4.0 with the N55Tu (365hp - DCT) and the RWD 240i with the B58 (335hp - ZF8) did 4.3.

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Yeah, I can't see the standard Supra being that much faster than the Z4. If the car is breaking into the 7:4x's then perhaps that's just for a faster GR version? Either that or the Z4 is just kind of slow, because honestly a 7:55 isn't particularly fast in this day and age.

What's interesting to me is that they seem to trust the transmission logic enough to keep the car in full auto for the entire run. I guess the ZFs really have gotten that good. Solid 1.1-1.2 lateral G sustained mid corner too, so there is good mechanical grip there from those MPSS*. I'm interested to see what one of these does with 450hp...
 

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So the Z4 does 0-62 mph in 4.6 seconds. That’s an indication that the Supra won’t be under 4 seconds, probably a 4.4 0-60 give or take. I really want to get excited but I am just not impressed, I understand why Toyota is keeping quiet until the last minute.

Reality isn’t matching the rumors, A lot of hype with this car.
The RWD M2 did a 4.0 with the N55Tu (365hp - DCT) and the RWD 240i with the B58 (335hp - ZF8) did 4.3.

3.99 is possible
I'm guessing and hoping that the 4.6 seconds mark is based off the EU 335hp number and maybe if the US version is indeed 380hp it'll be closer to 4.2-4.3. If so then the weight difference and suspension tuning can bring down another .1-.2
 

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I thought the way the car would be set up, it would cause a difference in time. I can see perhaps the Supra scoring a 7:50 time realistically so it doesn't blow the Z4 out of the water, and showcase the Supra a focus on being a race car. It's just me wondering what's considered Nurburgring worthy under Akio's judgement? The LFA's slowest time is 7:38 and the fastest being 7:14.64 with a special edition just for a reference.
 

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I'm guessing and hoping that the 4.6 seconds mark is based off the EU 335hp number and maybe if the US version is indeed 380hp it'll be closer to 4.2-4.3. If so then the weight difference and suspension tuning can bring down another .1-.2
Not to mention Tada stated that even the tunes of the vehicles are different.
Tada also mentioned software differences as a whole so we do not know what different features each car will have, such as launch control.
Gearing changes is also a possibility but I don't think they would change the gearing between the two cars.
 

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Not to mention Tada stated that even the tunes of the vehicles are different.
Tada also mentioned software differences as a whole so we do not know what different features each car will have, such as launch control.
Gearing changes is also a possibility but I don't think they would change the gearing between the two cars.
The redline on the Z4 is 6500 and from the promo vis at Goodwood, the redline on the Supra is 7400+

Again, could just be testing, and we'll know more later this week if they plan on giving us a little more detail.
 

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I'm not sure if they specified the Z4's horsepower rating but if this is the euro-spec, it could be doing a 7:55 with the restricted 340 HP configuration (vice the 382 HP configuration).

For added reference points on modern ring times, the 300+ HP Honda Civic Type R can lap the ring in 7:43.
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