So there's no way to make a 2021 Supra have burbles/pops?

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...like in the same way the 2020 does?

I test drove a 2020 Supra 3.0 and absolutely loved it, the sound was awesome and the burbles gave it so much character. But, not being deep into Supra lore, I assumed the 2021 shouldn't be that different, which I feel is a reasonable expectation.

So I went over and financed a Supra from CarMax. 2021 A91 with 9k miles. I buy the car, drive it home, everything's great but I can't really hear the exhaust well. Maybe it's still breaking in, I'm thinking at the time. Then I look up this exact problem and find a few obscure threads where it's actually talked about and realize that oh, the 2020 Supra sounds fantastic but the 2021 Supra sounds like a soccer mom minivan for some reason.

You know what, then I think oh well that's okay I'll just do a burble tune on it later. SIKE, I can't do that because I'd have to send my ECU to Europe apparently and pay another 6 grand or more, just to void my warranty and STILL not get the same sound as a 2020.

Does that sound about right? Because if I'm right, I don't understand how that's even legal and allowed. If I BUY the car, who are they to tell me what I can't or can do with my ECU?

So I was left with $60k less, a car that sounds like a minivan and apparently has no hope of ever sounding as good as the SAME CAR one year older. This isn't right. This doesn't feel right. I returned the car since CarMax has a full 30 day return policy and my dreams of wanting a Supra are honestly kind of shattered. I don't want to support a company that thinks it's okay to lock the ECU's like that, and think it's okay to sell a sports car for $60k when it sounds like a Nissan Altima.

Unreal, these companies should not be getting away with this.
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Did you turn sport mode on? The exhaust really doesn't make hardly any noise in normal mode that I can tell much whenever I'm cruising on the hwy or anything. I only ask as you made no mention of it at all.
 

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Did you turn sport mode on? The exhaust really doesn't make hardly any noise in normal mode that I can tell much whenever I'm cruising on the hwy or anything. I only ask as you made no mention of it at all.
Knowing how this guy is quick to complain and ramble on about his righteous bullshit he probably doesnā€™t have the mental capability to figure that outā€¦ oh well no loss to the community we didnā€™t get this idiot fully onboard
 

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Knowing how this guy is quick to complain and ramble on about his righteous bullshit he probably doesnā€™t have the mental capability to figure that outā€¦ oh well no loss to the community we didnā€™t get this idiot fully onboard
What kind of oil should he run?
 
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Knowing how this guy is quick to complain and ramble on about his righteous bullshit he probably doesnā€™t have the mental capability to figure that outā€¦ oh well no loss to the community we didnā€™t get this idiot fully onboard
Good point brother, you're absolutely right, I never even thought about the incredibly secretive and innovative sPoRt mode.

Good to know this is a trash community based on these replies though, enjoy your "Supra".
 

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Notsureifsrs.

So op financed a supra, his dream. Gets disappointed because sounds like a minivan(does not) and now his hopes and dreams are shattered.

I don't even.
 

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Good point brother, you're absolutely right, I never even thought about the incredibly secretive and innovative sPoRt mode.

Good to know this is a trash community based on these replies though, enjoy your "Supra".
Tbf, a trash post would warrant such replies.

I also have a bridge to sell you, finance it?
 
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So op financed a supra, his dream. Gets disappointed because sounds like a minivan(does not) and now his hopes and dreams are shattered.
It did though? I test drove a 2020 and it sounded great, so why am I to assume they just decided to remove ALL THE SOUNDS from the 2021, it makes absolutely zero sense.

And then they go ahead and lock to ECU on top of it so that you can spend another 6k just messing with that and taking a huge risk.

You feel like that's fair?
 

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Good point brother, you're absolutely right, I never even thought about the incredibly secretive and innovative sPoRt mode.

Good to know this is a trash community based on these replies though, enjoy your "Supra".

Sorry, king. Sorry we didn't coddle your feelings.
 

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It did though? I test drove a 2020 and it sounded great, so why am I to assume they just decided to remove ALL THE SOUNDS from the 2021, it makes absolutely zero sense.

And then they go ahead and lock to ECU on top of it so that you can spend another 6k just messing with that and taking a huge risk.

You feel like that's fair?
Not sure why you're mentioning all the sound. Different? Yes, by alot? Not imo. My 21 still gets burbles on downshifts and enough "character" for a stock car. But to complain about such little nuisances is silly. This isn't just a "Supra" thing, it's a bmw thing as far as tuning goes.
 
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Sorry, king. Sorry we didn't coddle your feelings.
Yeah voicing a complaint that actually makes perfect sense on the forums and being responded to with

" Knowing how this guy is quick to complain and ramble on about his righteous bullshit he probably doesnā€™t have the mental capability to figure that outā€¦ oh well no loss to the community we didnā€™t get this idiot fully onboard"

is kind of just being a piece of shit. Nothing to do with coddling btw.
 

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Not sure why you're mentioning all the sound. Different? Yes, by alot? Not imo. My 21 still gets burbles on downshifts and enough "character" for a stock car. But to complain about such little nuisances is silly. This isn't just a "Supra" thing, it's a bmw thing as far as tuning goes.
I guess I never even did any research at all myself before getting mine, only drove a buddies at an auto cross even over a weekend and he also had a 22(I also purchased a 22). Didn't know there was really any change between any of them other than having the option for a manual and then the wheels changed on the 23's+ and color choices?
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