Chief Engineer Says Supra's Blocked-Off Air Vents Can Be Made Functional / Functional vents possible?

[Goose]

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Hadn't seen this vid before. Thank you.

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[Therealist]

Regarding the Vents. I have said this before, it is NOT as easy as removing the plastic piece to make them functional. In a couple location of the Vents you will need to Cut into the Body of the MKV in order to make them functional. Ex. the Hood and the Side Door Panel. I think Tada-San may have missed that crucial detail when he made that statement that they are easy to modify to make them functional. Here is an in depth look at the Vents.

Exactly this. Saying these are easy to make functional is misleading at the very least

 

[DesmoSD]

I have a feeling that they will be using a manual in the next year or so. And the vents just need the plastic piece removed and a piece to direct the air and they'll be fully functional.

Everyone who wants the manual just needs to be patient, they'll get one eventually. I'm convinced of it.


Edit: however, the Internet being what it is, most people are going to be hating on the A90 until it's either exactly what they want, or it has a 2JZ in it.

Have you removed the fake vent on the fender on your FRS? I've seen threads where owners DIY'd their own vent so unless GRMN plans to offer proper ducting, it's going to remain a fake vent.

Yup, a manual would help but even with a 6 speed, it still won't win the hearts of car enthusiasts like the MKIV has.

 

[SupraFiend]

Well, the worst thing about the fake vents is they're fake because they offer no benefit to not being fake where they are. They're there because the pie in the sky no limits FT1 had them so the designers felt obligated to keep those little details, but their engineers tested or ruled that there was no benefit to opening them up. So just because you go and open them up and run ducts to them at home, isn't going to solve the problem. What's worse, fake blocked vents or open vents that at best do nothing or at worst hurt performance? Both are rice in my book.

I once went to great lengths to have a scooped CF hood made for the mk2, because I wanted ram air and I'd seen it done once before and it looked great. After much pain and time I finally got my scooped hood, but I found a better, cleaner way to get ram air by that point. The scoop just dumped massive amounts of air into my engine bay, made the hood bulge at speed and created drag, so I ended up blocking it off. Now it's a fake vent.

 

[kona61]

Have you removed the fake vent on the fender on your FRS? I've seen threads where owners DIY'd their own vent so unless GRMN plans to offer proper ducting, it's going to remain a fake vent.

Yup, a manual would help but even with a 6 speed, it still won't win the hearts of car enthusiasts like the MKIV has.

I don't know, might as well wait to see. This car should be given a chance before being bashed.

 

[SupraFiend]

If I actually were to get a mk5, I'd rather do some custom bodywork and eliminate the vents on the hood and doors. Smooth them over and get rid of that horrible bolt on piece on the door. Maybe get a CF door that is the same shape as the stock door with the bolt on piece attache, but is just one piece total.

As good as the FT1 looks, I kinda hate it because they went all scoop and vent crazy without any consideration for the mechanical layout of the car or any serious collaboration with aerodynamics engineers. And now we've inherited those oversights because everyone liked the concept so much.

 

[DesmoSD]

I don't know, might as well wait to see. This car should be given a chance before being bashed.

It's all about first impressions. It's going to be a tough sell when the shock factor is not there. This is why Kevin Hunter made the FT-1 to exotic dimensions, to capture that immediate excitement.

Personally, I still want to drive it but buying... 1st year production... no thank you. I'm ok with waiting.

Well, the worst thing about the fake vents is they're fake because they offer no benefit to not being fake where they are. They're there because the pie in the sky no limits FT1 had them so the designers felt obligated to keep those little details, but their engineers tested or ruled that there was no benefit to opening them up. So just because you go and open them up and run ducts to them at home, isn't going to solve the problem. What's worse, fake blocked vents or open vents that at best do nothing or at worst hurt performance? Both are rice in my book.

I once went to great lengths to have a scooped CF hood made for the mk2, because I wanted ram air and I'd seen it done once before and it looked great. After much pain and time I finally got my scooped hood, but I found a better, cleaner way to get ram air by that point. The scoop just dumped massive amounts of air into my engine bay, made the hood bulge at speed and created drag, so I ended up blocking it off. Now it's a fake vent.

Another example is the hood scoop for the Tacoma. Completely cosmetic with 0 functionality. Same thing with the new Camry rear bumper vents. Fake vents are the current trend in the automotive industry, just like phablets on the dashboard and simulated engine sounds through the speakers. All of that shit needs to go away.

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/anyone-open-up-their-trd-hood-scoop.165221/

 

[TheFalls]

I remember reading somewhere on this forum, they mentioned that the vents can be made functional if needed. But for the average street driven car it won't be necessary to 'open' them.

Question is, How many of us are going to push the car to the very limits on the streets? Probably none of us, if we value our driving licence.

On track its a different story, some of us here will/may do that. Then it will be a matter of ducting to extract that surplus cooling or gaining some more aero effect in serious competitive racing.

I know i won't be tracking the car if i ultimately buy it, hence I'm not fussed about the fake vents.

 

[Supra21]

So now we know that the side vent serves a purpose! It's an anchor for an aero fitment on the TRD model! She's coming together...and just in advance, if anyone complains about it looking off due to it being a random carbon piece...just paint it!

 

[SupraFiend]

Nice! That looks so much better then the standard fake vent piece. Would still rather the door was just that shape to start with without another bolt on bit, but this is much better.

 

[Supra21]

Nice! That looks so much better then the standard fake vent piece. Would still rather the door was just that shape to start with without another bolt on bit, but this is much better.

It's great! Serves two purposes! Some people probably like them and some don't...Toyota gives the option to both customers and can market a TRD part in the process!

 

[SupraFiend]

Yeah I'd prefer the fake, drag inducing vent was the option though.

Can't wait for an aftermarket company to offer a complete De-Fake Vent kit for the supra, nothing but filler panels like this lol.

 

[Daigor]

So now we know that the side vent serves a purpose! It's an anchor for an aero fitment on the TRD model! She's coming together...and just in advance, if anyone complains about it looking off due to it being a random carbon piece...just paint it!

This is what we waited a week for? An overlay that directs the air OVER the tires? Put this Kit under a wind tunnel and give me the exact Cd readings. If this thing hits lower than .23 then take my $$$!

 

[Psychodo]

Eh, not crazy about it but at least it's an option. The more I think about it, the more fake vents bother me. Especially the hood/door locations.

 

[Captain_Kirk]

To those that are complaining about all the fake vents. You guys should take a look at the 2nd gen R8. Especially the facelift model.

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