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I know but the new Z is about 150 lbs heavier than the 370Z and I feel most people will get the performance model in manual and auto.

I hope you guys who want a manual so badly put your money where your mouth is because as we all know TALK IS CHEAP! Don't make Toyota/BMW regret the decision after one year. What I can't stand to see is people bitching about something they won't buy if it's made.

Facts! A 4000 lb car with that driver lol.

The 370Z had a 55F / 45R balance and a base curb weight of 3330 lbs. The extra 150+ lbs of the new Z, I'm assuming went mostly to the front which would be an even more horrible balance for a FR sports car. I have a feeling if that's the case it will be very front heavy and understeer prone which...

Outside of potential pricing and individual preference of looks(I prefer Supra) it's hard to see where the Z has an advantage especially if Toyota does offer the manual(I'd still keep the 8spd) in 2023.

I knew it was going to be heavier than the Supra by around a 100lbs or more.

Did anyone see the news where a base Z will have the identical MSRP as a Supra RZ(3.0) 6.9 million yen in Japan? Now I don't know what a base RZ 3.0 Supra has in it but this makes me think the Z will start in between a 2.0 and 3.0 Supra(47k) or be at least close to the 3.0 at 51k USD.

This car will be heavier than the 370z based on some investigating on my part. It's essentially a 370Z that's 4 inches longer but that might be because of the length of the bumpers being longer. It has a few more modern features than the 370z and the 3.0TT motor is heavier than the 3.7 VQ37HR...

The 4 banger was an after thought to rake in extra sales which makes financial sense. If they had utilized the heavy ass Lexus equipment you mentioned the Supra would've been a worse car than it is. The funny thing is a real Z should also have a I6 motor just like the first couple generations...

Yes it is

I would've bought this if you were in Georgia. But the front wheels won't clear the stock suspension I think

I wouldn't trade in my zf8 for the 6 spd manual. I love shifting up and down in manual mode without having to use a clutch and take my hand off the steering wheel momentarily. However If there was no manual mode on the zf8 I'd rather a manual. zf8/DCT/PDK style sport transmissions > 6sp manual...

I use paddles 100 percent of the time.

If you sell the strut bars for $200 shipped I'll take it

Did you ever figured out what codes the CEL had? I'm having issues

That red doesn't have that rich shade I love like Renaissance Red. It looks like a dull red.

That red doesn't have that rich shade I love like Renaissance Red. It looks like a dull red.

Did you keep the piggyback plugged in all the while?

I did that prior already lol. I'm obsessed with keeping my Supra clean.

Did your light ever come off?