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Big difference of course is the GT86 launched with a manual. Had it not done so, the reviews would have been less laudatory. And complaints about the engine's power delivery emerged pretty quickly IIRC.

That's SOP for cars that have yet to go on sale unfortunately.

I thought when they rolled it out in Montreal they'd be releasing Canadian pricing and trims/packages, but no press releases to date. Maybe they are holding that back for the Toronto show in a few weeks, as it's the pre-eminent Canadian show.

Seeing a car IRL can make a big difference in your view of its design. Based on media images, I thought the Miata RF looked awkward from some angles, but when I actually saw it, I was totally sold on the look. Hoping the same thing happens here.

Here's the exact Tada quote from R&T that the Jalop piece was challenging : "If you look at the vehicle today, there's holes all over the body," Tada said. "They're just capped on the production car. Those are for the racing model. When the customer goes and converts it to a racing car, or adds...

Re test driving: In Canada, unless Toyota Canada organizes some special drive events, forget it. Don't expect ANY dealer to allow you a test drive for at least a year, if ever. All incoming cars will be pre-sold and so off-limits. The days of dealer "demonstrators" being made available for...

Jalopnik calls out Tada on a little porkie of his: https://jalopnik.com/i-just-dont-believe-what-the-toyota-supras-chief-engine-1831838527

Search for "maintaining matte car paint" for the answer. Prone to swirl marks, have to hand wash, paint can't be waxed or really be touched up or corrected...

Are you hearing anything on what they'll be charging for the Phantom Matte Gray?

Canadians can expect to see a few of these being unavailable here if the experience with the FR-S/86 is any indication. Probably one of the two greys, and the yellow.

Congrats. Did the list just open up or have you been on it for a while?

It's right in the PR release in the first post.

More official photos (and some renderings) up here: https://jalopnik.com/2020-toyota-supra-tons-of-new-photos-1831734128

Perhaps they don't do manufacturer preorders in the US because that would lock the dealers in to selling at MSRP, denying them fat ADMs. If ADMs are not legal in Europe (as they are not in most of Canada) then that's not a dealer concern there....

FTFY.

Thanks for the photos. That Phantom Matte Gray looks spectacular, I wonder how fat the premium will be for it - $1500? $2500? The white looks good as well. The red paint selected for this car is disappointingly bland, but then again very few if any reds can stand up to the amazing 3-layer Soul...

Maybe we will get a break on pricing with that odd engine.....

Blind spot monitoring is not standard on a $50k car with poor rear visibility? Ridiculous.

It's great that there will be an individual mode in the driving mode options to allow customization, I never saw any confirmation of that up to this point. Seats looks to be very well bolstered, but that silver plastic (?) headrest cutout looks horribly cheap in that photo.

If Toyota is consistent in its cross-border currency markup with what it charges on the base 86, we'll see a price in CAD that's 113.4% of the U.S. price. So about $56,700 CAD for a $50k USD base Supra. Fingers crossed.