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Waiting for a higher spec car to come out after launch might be waiting forever.

IDK, I kinda like that Jalopnik render. :p :D

Yeah roof alone, not much. I remember in my E92 M3 days, the weight savings between a carbon roof car and a steel moonroof (the only two options) was 44lbs. It made a difference being at the top of the car, but still not going to be hundreds of pounds. Now if it's like you and A70...

I suppose we should be thankful that we got it at all. But it seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy, circular blame. Japanese sportscar comes out, sells well, Japanese manufacturer fails to refresh and update car, sales taper off because car hasn't been updated since it came out, Japanese...

CFRP tub?????? :dunno::spaz: :bump: Also, I hope and pray those paddles are hooked up to one of the getrag dual clutch boxes in BMW's repertoire.

Disappointing but par for the course. It seems like almost every Japanese sportscar is a one-and-done, rarely something that's multigenerational like most of the euro and American counterparts.

For what it's worth, I'm not predicting that there will be an announcement at NAIAS, but just saying it's probably our best chance of getting any news soon. If we don't hear anything then, tough to say when we'd get anything next. I don't think Geneva, Frankfurt, New York, etc. are big shows...

Price range was initially disclosed in the FT1 interviews to be $50,000-$60,000. I believe the latest details from A70 on this forum are also along those lines. On the market right now, I'd say best comparisons in the price range would be the BMW M2, Shelby GT350, base model Cayman, base...

FIFY :D

Yeah FT-AC is just a repeat of the disappointment that was the FT-4X.

Right now, your best hope for any more official news from Toyota on the new Supra is going to be Detroit, NAIAS, in January. That's where they launched FT1, so there could be some hope of a return. The most recent report I read on a timetable was "end of 2019." That's at least two years...

I'd prefer Carrera S to Cayman GTS, but I suppose those numbers wouldn't be half bad. Only thing, by the time a real Supra sees the showroom, a base Cayman will probably offer the same performance for less money.

The 911 is one of the lightest true sportscar offerings on the market. And the M2 is literally only about 80lbs lighter than an M4. Yeah you could buy a 4C or a Miata but neither of those cars are what the Supra ethos is about.

The fifth generation Toyota Supra will be sold as a standalone model under the Gazoo Racing sub-brand when it arrives at the end of 2019. :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: End of 2019 release means it's going to be a 2020 model year. Holy shit...

A 400horsepower Z car could be pretty compelling. Could even call it a 400Z or 400ZX which would sound cool and market well. Even the 300 horse variant could be compelling depending on price. Seems like it would be pretty cheap for them to do something like that. However Nissan is all...

Looks like we're rapidly getting to the point where delivering on that GTR 2020 concept won't be possible, at least not by 2020. Z car, yeah I just don't see Nissan spending to make anything impressive. I could see them warming over the 370 and calling it a 390 or something. But who knows...

Yeah definitely a lie. Even if it's not a lie, nothing you can really grab onto in that comment. Of course it feels like a BMW, because it is one...

November now, but Pain & Gain was an awesome movie. Awful true story though :eek: Don't know if I'd want to watch it again anytime soon. Baby driver really good. Not sure it has what it takes to be a classic, but I really liked it.

Toyota has had a few concepts called FT, and I don't believe anything has been released with such a name. Toyota has recently filed and obtained trademarks in US and EU for "Supra." They could simply be holding this name so no one else gets it, but it's a pretty good likelihood it will go to...

I wonder what the real-world, spirited-driving-day range is. I'm assuming 620/1000k range is hypermiling it, just like the range quotes on the other models. If we assume half, or 300mi of hard driving, then you could conceivably meet up with friends, go on a fun drive, and get home after that...