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Actually they lost it at one point there, GM overtook them again. And technically, Toyota had no sports cars on the market from 2006 to 2012, so your 20 years thing doesn't really work. And if you hadn't breezed over my reply, you would have seen the bit about Scion. How much money did they...

Welcome to supramkv.com, what else are we gonna do once we grow board of talking about chip tunes and bodykits? :p Also, the whole A90 marketing is sort of representative of the BS Toyota pushed on us around the development of this car, so its kinda inevitable the conversation will go there...

Thats true, but its not like everyone knows all the BMW codes either (and I bet you j29 is stamped somewhere on the car). BMW seems to share them across different models of the same generation a bit too. Look at the Z3's code for instance... https://www.turnermotorsport.com/t-BMW-Chassis-Codes...

I think he was referring more to the plastic parts under the hood. Majority? More like all.

hmmmm disagree, mk5 indicates the generation adequately and that it is a Supra, without relying on a non existent chassis code. I think most of us salty previous gen Supra owners can at least let you guys have that one, don't push it with that a90 crap though :p I've been trying to try that...

yeah, you haven't been attention the last 20 years. Do you not understand what a Halo car brings to a manufacturer? IT doesn't matter if it makes money. Toyota didn't understand this either for awhile there, and yes it did cost them. Did you not notice that at one point in the 2000s the average...

eh we got that out of the way in the first post lol

Yes. It makes zero sense, its just marketing mumbo jumbo because people refer to the old Supras by chassis code, A80, A70, A60 etc. Toyota is trying to draw a lineage connection to the old cars that doesn't actually exist. Calling it the MK5 works much better. Or call it what actually is, J29.

Needs? Thats debatable lol Its the law of averages, if you throw a sports car in the engineering mix, they would have done things differently. For instance, the SC300 and mk4 Supra share diffs, brake, hub components, transmissions, motors etc with the GS400/300, the LS400 even a little etc, but...

They are called progressive springs. 2 different rates of coil on one spring... The close together section is a softer rate, they absorb all of the little bumps and give you better ride quality. The other section is a stiffer rate. When you throw it into a corner, the soft section completely...

Thats not how co-development works. The 2 cars had been designed to share a platform from the get go, just like the SC300/mk4, 2nd gen Soarer/mk3, first gen Soarer/mk2, we could have easily gotten a 3400lb mk5 Supra (as we ended up with) with back seats, and a 3600ish RC300 (the RC300 4cyl auto...

Yup. Here's the mk5 tribute car to the TRD 3000gt mk4 you speak of. They didn't exactly get the widebody part right. Though I perfectly agree, the car is more then wide enough as is...

They could have shared a platform with the RC350/300 if they wanted to.

Exactly. Like this, but no vent at all... That widebody green monstrosity way above looks horrible, "lets add more bolt on panels and create more body lines on a car already plagued with too many!". How about get rid of them like this Wasabi concept. Now someone needs to make new fenders and...

Again, not even close. There is only 1 reason the new Supra is a 2 seater. Its because the car it shares a platform with has always been one. End of story.

The ONLY reason they used that motor in the first generation is the car was built by Subaru on a largely Subaru platform. Mix and matching chassis and motors from different manufacturer's is a really hard thing to do from a production and engineering standpoint, specifically with engine...

If only Toyota had an in house luxury brand that needed a new 2 door sports coupe (or 3) at the time to share the platform with! It was a BS reason at the time, and everyone not drinking the kool aid knew it, this just hammers it back. Excited about this Yaris, though seems unlikely it will...

Deleted! Thank you Blitz. Hope that door vent delete is just fiberglass or plastic and relatively affordable, unlike the similar TRD piece. Now if someone can just make an affordable 1 piece door that has no line and just a smooth transition, this design faux paux will be fixed properly. Hoping...

Moving back to a Toyota Chassis!!! WIN! Keeping the hated Subaru boxer?? Why. They even have their own turbo 4 in production that already makes that kind of power.

Toyota's Left Hand: "You're going to take this BMW and accept it as the new Supra because its the only way you're going to get one! Sports cars are too expensive to develop today, we had to co develop! Also, manual transmissions are dead!" Toyota's Right Hand: "Hey, wouldn't it be fun to...