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Yeah, exactly, that quote. Yes they said that, but if that had happened, I don't think that that's how it would look on the dyno. "Whoops, the torque converter didn't lock up, we just made an extra 38lbs/ft". Wouldn't it do the opposite? I'm sure they didn't do just a single pull either. Lots of...

How about that C8 Corvette though! lol Good review (nit pick, just because they feel different, doesn't mean one feels like a Toyota and one feels like a BMW).

And another Dynojet Dyno with 348/389 give or take a few to the wheels. I think we can throw out the Car and Driver dyno numbers now. Would be really nice to see if anyone can match their 3.8/12.3 perf numbers with an actual production car Toyota hasn't dicked with.

That statement only applies to domestics.

Yeah I just looked at a black one on the dealer floor and the gaps were a little off there too.

This is sitting at Destination Toyota Burnaby if anyone wants to see it (its sold and they will not open it for you)...

The 49k base model doesn't come with heated seats or leather.

But you are right, they are totally different cars targeted at different markets. As good a deal as the C8 is, I too prefer FR cars that I can tune and mod. Should be a good time to pickup a C7 z06 soon though lol

Are we still comparing the price of the c8 to the Supra? Pointless imo. Who cares if an average C8 will sticker for 10k more then an average mk5. The important thing with the c8 is it will sticker on average 100k to 300k under its actual competition. New NSX, R8, Ferrari 488, Lambo Huracan...

Exactly. kona61 you're also forgetting that this recent spike is not the mk4s first. Average mk4 TTs are sitting at the original MSRP or more currently. Same thing happened in 2001 after the first F&F movie came out. Meanwhile its contemporaries, the 300zx, 3000gt, RX7 etc all dipped into the...

They've matched the Car and Driver numbers. Starting to smell like Toyota slipped them a ringer. Given that the C&D car was able to manage a 12.3 in the quarter and these guys did a 12.5 in pretty ideal conditions it seemed.

Yup so theres that. Incorrect. MA671M is half right, but the dyno software takes that into account. Read this, it will clear it up better then I can (it's a PDF you'll have to dl)... https://www.mainlinedyno.com.au/images/downloads/DYNO_TORQUE_FIGURES_-_THE_TRUTH.pdf

I would hope thats what they do. The last set of directions are what you want to do if you just had a freshly built motor put in.

Yes, preproduction, as in they should have figured this shit out by now and the OP shouldn't have received a car with alignment problems. Seems ridiculous they would allow a car to leave the factory like that.

10% would be a more conservative estimate considering what we've heard about this transmission. But yeah, we knew the numbers were high from the C&D dyno (also dynojet), though quite a bit lower then what they saw. Which there was some speculation was from tranny slip, but the dyno didnt really...

Yup all of that. There is no "wearing in" of bearings and other contact points. If the clearances were all set right and the motor properly lubricated, the rings to walls are the only metal on metal contact. I would like to think manufacturer's run engines on new cars at the factory enough to...

Every single preproduction mk5 had body lines around the clam shell hood that looked like a 3 year old did the alignment. I couldn't believe they put those cars in front of cameras looking like that.

No kidding. That's something they should be addressing on the line.

New motors (with pistons), don't like to be abused, lugged, redlined, or driven at static rpms for long periods. On the last motor I built, for the first 30 kms I ran it for about 60 seconds in 1000rpm intervals. 2000rpm at 60 seconds, then 3000rpm at 60 seconds, etc all the way to 6k and back...