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Maybe we will see one from Genesis in the next few years, although their priority is developing an SUV first. Hell, just put the 3.3TT in the facelift genesis coupe and im all for it

Both points can be said for the Camry. Obviously it's just a platform for advertising as it doesn't represent the Camry, Supra, or Tacoma by any means

Let the sheep solely compare peak HP numbers, they will never understand how a car like the M240i has a better 0-60 with less hp and more weight

Whats the hate with the nascar version? Of course it is hideous but I have never seen a nascar stock car and been like "wow that accurately represents the production version of that car"

at 5800 rpm :rofl::rofl::rofl:

I don't really get your point No doubt the VR30 is a great platform, but I specifically called out the 370z which doesnt have a VR30 (yet). The Q60 is only 2 years old so I don't know what you mean by "still sells" and "keeping them alive" Speaking of the Stinger, maybe they will make a...

I dont know why it was listed like this. The diagrams showed it was a B58B30C. It has now been changed to B58B30O1. The author did not include a source so who knows why though

Have you driven a car with a N54/N55/B58?

I did not say it was underrated, I was referring to all current bmw motors. Stock 322hp B58s dyno anywhere between 310-330whp. Considering d/t loss, thats a 10%-15% sandbag on the factory. I think you mean NA V6, the VR30 has a completely different curve We can compare the N54 if you want...

Of course they are different with one being NA and the other turbo. I only compared them because others did. First off, even though you state 2020 supra has 340hp, we do not know that to be a fact. Also, BMW motor are underrated. You failed to address peak power VQ37 Nismo - 350HP @7400 rpm...

The realoem leak is hardly valid. How do you explain that every trim has only sunroof controls on a car we have never seen with a sunroof? Or a car with an integrated exhaust manifold yet every engine bay shot shows 6 exhaust ports?

Does this guy have any credibility?

It's not that deep. No one has said it's a pos The corolla/RAV4/Camry buyer doesn't care at all. Toyota USAs flagship is the Avalon

For the record, I don't see this as an argument what so ever. Like I mentioned earlier, individual elements scream BMW as seen in other models as a whole but the design isn't inherently BMW IMO. Elements like the screen position aren't specific to BMW. Lexus RX for example Even Mazda 3's...

And not wanting one. The beauty of Supras is that they can driven pretty much any day of the year, pending snow, and be enjoyed by pretty much anyone. My grandmother even owned a turbo targa mk3. But then again I have never been caught up with big power numbers (aka dick swinging) and wouldn't...

We haven't seen any mules with sunroofs, and there isnt a sunroof headliner in the parts diagrams. I dont even think it is possible with the double bubble roof. This goes back to these diagrams listing parts that were used in mules (IE placeholder parts), and not production spec cars

That's only if you look at peak numbers If you look at curves and when power is being made, you will see even a base 320hp B58 blows the VQ37 out of the water (and thats coming from someone who DD's a VQ37)

Its for the sunroof lol, this is why I think BMW and Toyota are trolling us

Hopefully they review the car in the US soon where the 382 hp version is road legal

Everyone thought I was crazy for saying it though lol. Yeah we can focus on individual elements and point out similiarities in parts with other BMWs but the big picture is far from BMW The UI is a great question, Id think it would be a reskinned BMW interface to communicate with all their...