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I think a ton of people would get quad tips if it were available. It's badass and the way these cars should have come from the factory.

I haven't purchased yet, so I didn't vote. But when I do purchase, it will be a manual or nothing. I'm only interested in this car with a manual transmission.

The car will be fine. Every car manufacturer that requires 91 octane fuel knows that there will still be people who put 87 octane in the tank, so they don't factory tune the engine to self destruct on 87 octane. At most, the vehicle will pull timing and you'll be down a bit on power. Think...

I like the wheels on the 2.0 more than any other OE MKV Supra wheel.

This gets my vote as the dumbest thread of 2023. And even though it's only April, I'm pretty sure this will stand as the dumbest thread for the entire year.

If I wanted an automatic, I'd buy a Camry. ;)

I'm still waiting to hear about the failure mode. What if it was the dual-mass flywheel that failed? Yes, still technically part of the clutch system, but they've been known to fail before on many different cars. Still though, that's the exception and not the rule.

I'm quite sure of it. Every MT car has aftermarket clutch options, so why wouldn't the MKV Supra?

Do we even know the failure mode of the clutch? There are several reason a clutch can start slipping without the clutch itself actually failing. For example, if gear oil gets on the friction disk, you'll often get slipping. Sometimes even intermittent slipping rather than permanent slipping...

So....modded vs stock then? Reason I ask is because it's pretty easy to make any car faster if that's your thing.

Could also be a bad seal that's letting a bit of gear oil to get on the clutch disk intermittently. I had that issue once and most of the time the clutch worked just fine. But every once in a while, it would slip a lot under hard acceleration, usually in 4th, 5th, and 6th.

Ditch it because it looks lame. Way cleaner without that silly little badge on there.

Get the horn mod next. Seriously. Toyota should be ashamed of themselves for putting a 1987 Toyota Corolla horn on the Supra.

I'd be all over the new M2.....if it weren't so damn ugly. But hey, looks are subjective. There has to be at least a few people out there who think the M2 looks good!

Like my Audi, most BMWs use an one-time use Oetiker clamp to fasten the shift knob to the shift lever.

Somebody give this guy a pair of glasses! LOL

LoL...I said with the pedal to the mat. Nothing is easier than that and yes, it's instantaneous. I've done it. It's not possible to do the same thing with a ZF8.

Terrific. Now we all know why you don't like DCT cars and that's all good and fine. Ironically, you never answered my question. The ONE redeeming quality I, as a manual transmission guy, absolutely loved about the M3 is how it instantly selects the lowest possible gear for maximum accelation...

I have driven the M3. But to be brutally honest, I strongly prefer the manual transmission M3, so there's that to consider. Read my post above that explains what I did really like about the M3.

Honeslty, I'm much more of a manual transmission guy, but I've had enough seat time in various different dual clutch gearbox cars to know what they do better than a ZF8 or any other torque converter automatic. For example, have you ever driven an M3, held the left shift paddle and basically...