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Man what a downer that'd be if the Supra finally returned but only in hybrid version! To answer @Yoyoma question, the engine tuning market for a BMW engine would not only be bigger (think of how many BMW models already run the possible engines that will go into the Supra) but it'd be...

Here's the differences between the M2's N55 and M3/M4's S55's engines (got this from Bimmerpost) 1. Closed desk (stronger casting, heavier but with less flex/better vibration suppression and better cooling/heat capacity) 2. Forged crankshaft/better crank for high RPM operation/harsher operation...

None of that seems to jive if they want to make the next Z more mainstream and affordable. Maybe years down the line some of this light weighting program can benefit a niche model like the Z.

Seeing as how it seems no one has here has seen it in person, it would be a pretty boring thread :) I guess some of us are waiting for something more solid from Toyota :dunno:

Curious who has actually seen the FT-1 concept in person. If you saw it, did it fall short of or exceed your expectations? I've yet to make it out to a show to catch it but figured by now they would have a new concept out there...

Good idea, starting one now :)

I'm curious....how many people here have seen the FT-1 in person?

It is not bad overall but the front end looks way too busy, like a face in agony lol.

The man leaves quite a legacy. Not a fan of the 370z but a big fan of all the Z cars before that, especially the 90's Z cars. :thumbsup:

Fiberglass?! Thought that was stuff was only used on cheap aftermarket bodykits...

Well best case scenario is they confirm an all-carbon shell (fingers crossed!)

Weird, directly contradicts Tada's words about a convertible 86 in this video from just 3-4 months ago. He says it's coming...

How much smaller and different than an FR-S could a Celica revival actually be. And at that price point it probably won't be a mid-engine revival like the MR2 :( FR-S is already pretty entry level and a pretty basic sports car so something of a different niche like a mid engine entry sports...

Also interesting that he calls the Supra a "higher class of 86" ?

Good find. This is the latest statement I've seen from Tada San. 3 sports car lineup is exciting but I hope there's enough demand out there to keep the 3 models going for multiple generations. I'm almost as excited about the sub-86 sports car as the new Supra! If it can be a MR2 reboot...

Good info thanks. Sounds like the MKV Supra might launch with a new engine. I was hoping that it would. To stick an existing engine in there doesn't seem cutting edge enough for a relaunch of a legendary car.

You have it reversed. Most companies use their halo models to innovate and test the newest technologies. Some of that then flows down to the mass volume cars.

OK I should have said NA is a dying breed for non-American cars. Lots of muscle car, pony car and truck guys in the US love their NA V8's so American companies are still afraid of getting rid of them. European and Japanese companies seem to care less and just cramming small displacement turbo...

Not gonna happen. NA is a dying breed. Though they'd score major points with enthusiasts by not only making it a V8 but also naturally aspirated. :headbang:

Sounds like BMW is serious about making the Z3/Z4 a fun sports car again. Current one supposed to be an expensive snoozefest.