2021 Stage 1 Tuning on MHD or BM3
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Just wondering why you regret it? Was it sufficient power? I hear many good things and was planning on purchasing. Would like to hear your reasons. Thank you.
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I'm a bit confused on this matter. Are we only talking about predate ECU unlocking? I have 2021 but with post date. Is mine unlockable? Thank you.
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What I believe Marin is referring to is that the 2021s with an ecu date earlier than 6/2020 still require a "bench unlock" to be tuned. ECU dates after 6/2020 are still not tuneable.
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I run a humble tuning shop in Singapore and work closely with MHD & I have been working with Ecutek for almost 5 years.
Both have great support and I feel in US particularly, youâll have a good spread of well versed MHD tuners such as Wedge Performance, Twisted and CESMotorsport depending on where youâre located. With MHD, as end user you get to do logs via the app be it on the road or dyno to send to tuners or MHD for tweaks.
Ecutek wise majority of times weâd do custom maps primarily focused on the spirited track enthusiast but honestly itâs all relative to what you would personally like.
Honestly I enjoy both and Iâm personally about running MHD on my personal vehicle since the ECU was unlocked. I learnt my rom version wasnât listed in their app, sent MHD my full ECU reads and theyâve updated the app for me and will be available to most in their next update next week.
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I actually switched recently from bootmod to MHD and I am happy. I will say this throttle response in bootmod hell even just idlingâŠif you barely touched the damn throttle you were at 4K rpm but with MHD I can gradually raise rpms (did this after installing after market parts to listen for rattles and test for leaks)and not freak the engine out.
I did run the 93 tune but once I got to half a tank I decided to give the e50 tune a shot an holy shit that was a big difference. It pulls an pulls hard! Has been on average in the 90s here in Indiana so my IATs have been pretty high an while I donât have the tools to test anymore I did just buy the Verus turbo heat shield for my 21 (yes the finally came out with one) and I will say I feel more confident of my MST not having so much heat soak from that turbo!
As far as reliability of the tuning and ease of use the MHD out shines the bootmod by a long shot. Bootmod is temperamental and tends to disconnect a lot if you donât do it right and you still have to plug in the enet cable to the bootmod box vs the MHD you just plug in and take your iPhone or tablet an set it on your work bench and then tune it. First time did take about 2-4 min but after that..17 seconds to modify or change maps.
now I will say this bootmod did update all their maps for the 21 models in may so I havenât tested that out yet. But mentioned something about corrected TCU limitations or something like that.
cons of MHD
So far Iâve noticed a slight hesitation on cold start up in the mornings like itâs not wanting to fire. Has only happened 2 times in 15 key cycles but still donât like it. I have no misfires and timing isnât going bad shit crazy so might be a fuel issue (possibly to much e85) but have used a website to calculate what is needed for the e50 mix!
2nd it doesnât seem to have as many menu options as bootmod. Grantedhalf the options you wonât use but still just seems very limited.
lasty they are a bit slow on getting back to you butpretty sure these guys are based out of Germany an im not the only customer. Hit them up 3 days ago and just got the response tonight.
Other then that MHD has my vote. Check out a video Thic Whips posted on YT when he switched from BOOTMOD3 to MHD via CES Motorsports! Ces claims to have worked directly with MHD in the early days of the Supra and if you pay attention to the graphâŠ.the line is sooo much smoother and consistent vs bootmod being all over the place it seems. Also found out AMS is considering giving MHD a shot to try and diversify their tuning since they only use Ecutek.
bottom line guys itâs based on preference and how you want the car to feel. More and more tuners are starting to switch and warm up to MHD.
I did run the 93 tune but once I got to half a tank I decided to give the e50 tune a shot an holy shit that was a big difference. It pulls an pulls hard! Has been on average in the 90s here in Indiana so my IATs have been pretty high an while I donât have the tools to test anymore I did just buy the Verus turbo heat shield for my 21 (yes the finally came out with one) and I will say I feel more confident of my MST not having so much heat soak from that turbo!
As far as reliability of the tuning and ease of use the MHD out shines the bootmod by a long shot. Bootmod is temperamental and tends to disconnect a lot if you donât do it right and you still have to plug in the enet cable to the bootmod box vs the MHD you just plug in and take your iPhone or tablet an set it on your work bench and then tune it. First time did take about 2-4 min but after that..17 seconds to modify or change maps.
now I will say this bootmod did update all their maps for the 21 models in may so I havenât tested that out yet. But mentioned something about corrected TCU limitations or something like that.
cons of MHD
So far Iâve noticed a slight hesitation on cold start up in the mornings like itâs not wanting to fire. Has only happened 2 times in 15 key cycles but still donât like it. I have no misfires and timing isnât going bad shit crazy so might be a fuel issue (possibly to much e85) but have used a website to calculate what is needed for the e50 mix!
2nd it doesnât seem to have as many menu options as bootmod. Grantedhalf the options you wonât use but still just seems very limited.
lasty they are a bit slow on getting back to you butpretty sure these guys are based out of Germany an im not the only customer. Hit them up 3 days ago and just got the response tonight.
Other then that MHD has my vote. Check out a video Thic Whips posted on YT when he switched from BOOTMOD3 to MHD via CES Motorsports! Ces claims to have worked directly with MHD in the early days of the Supra and if you pay attention to the graphâŠ.the line is sooo much smoother and consistent vs bootmod being all over the place it seems. Also found out AMS is considering giving MHD a shot to try and diversify their tuning since they only use Ecutek.
bottom line guys itâs based on preference and how you want the car to feel. More and more tuners are starting to switch and warm up to MHD.
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IMO, I think Ecutek is still the better option. It does cost more but with Flex fuel integration and now that there is the option for integration with Reflex for those running port injection. If you already have BM3 or MHD and you dont need the options, Id stick with what you got and just go with custom tuning over OTS maps.
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Realistically every flash platform uses the same tables to tune the cars. If you want the ecutek racerom features. Go with ecutek. If not, then any flash platform with a proper tuner will give requested results.
My car runs exactly the same and makes the same power on ecutek, mhd, mgflasher and my kessV2.
I havent custom tuned on BM3 is a while due to the whole server thing.
It just boils down to what extra stuff you want. So base your choice on that. i personally cant remember one time other than just making sure it works that ive used map switching or flex fuel on my car ever. I always run e85. So any flash platform works for me.
But some people like it so thats where the ability to chose platforms come into play.
My car runs exactly the same and makes the same power on ecutek, mhd, mgflasher and my kessV2.
I havent custom tuned on BM3 is a while due to the whole server thing.
It just boils down to what extra stuff you want. So base your choice on that. i personally cant remember one time other than just making sure it works that ive used map switching or flex fuel on my car ever. I always run e85. So any flash platform works for me.
But some people like it so thats where the ability to chose platforms come into play.
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