MKV2021
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https://www.rexpeed.net/2012/en/product_detail.php?serial=864
These were just announced, along with strut tower braces. ?
What did you do to your Supra today?
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These were just announced, along with strut tower braces. ?
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That's what I'm talking about.
J29DB03
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We have the motion sensor type key fob. It’s not a 100% fix but does help.
https://www.driving.co.uk/news/moti...-fix-keyless-car-thefts-say-security-experts/
Supra_UK_
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Thank you! I didn't know about this, great to see a step forward indeed.
Personally though I will keep using my pouch regardless, one because I like how it looks, keeps the key protected, and as the article says the new tech is not infallible.
Relay can even happen at a retail park not necessarily just at home hence why I have the key hidden at all times, same reason why we use rfid for card wallets as this happens frequently at airports too; can't trust anyone, certainly not insurance companies or the police to recover or replace your car...
Anyone relying on hopes and dreams to protect their car, doesn't care about losing their car after all.
FLtrackdays
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Great info! If I keep my key fob in the center of my house (away from windows) and in my work bag (far away from the parking garage) - will this prevent a proximity attack? Being far away from outside sources/computers? I’ll buy one of those little pouches too, just to be safe…
Supra_UK_
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Unfortunately, no in my opinion, Each keyless system has a different range but it's confusing/un trust worthy.
My other daily car is keyless too, one day I was in the kitchen cooking, wife was in the yard watering plants and noticed the bloody car lights were on and it was unlocked and welcoming us, the key was in the bedroom...
Since then I'll never trust keyless again, if I could 100% disable it, I would.
According to the Supra instructions manual (see photo below) the range is quite small which is good, but I think the relay devices amplify the signals a bit like a wifi booster so that might still be a risk!
They make nice faraday pouches and boxes that can be pleasant to look at and use making it less of a hassle ?
FLtrackdays
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I’ll look for those on Amazon. We keep all the keys in the laundry room in a basket. I’ll look for a box to put them in instead. And a “faraday” pouch. Never heard that term before. Wow! Learn something new every day ? Thanks pal!Unfortunately, no in my opinion, Each keyless system has a different range but it's confusing/un trust worthy.
My other daily car is keyless too, one day I was in the kitchen cooking, wife was in the yard watering plants and noticed the bloody car lights were on and it was unlocked and welcoming us, the key was in the bedroom...
Since then I'll never trust keyless again, if I could 100% disable it, I would.
According to the Supra instructions manual (see photo below) the range is quite small which is good, but I think the relay devices amplify the signals a bit like a wifi booster so that might still be a risk!
They make nice faraday pouches and boxes that can be pleasant to look at and use making it less of a hassle ?
razorlab
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Lmao at the faraday purse. What’s stopping them from doing what you fear while you drive your car away/to?Unfortunately, no in my opinion, Each keyless system has a different range but it's confusing/un trust worthy.
My other daily car is keyless too, one day I was in the kitchen cooking, wife was in the yard watering plants and noticed the bloody car lights were on and it was unlocked and welcoming us, the key was in the bedroom...
Since then I'll never trust keyless again, if I could 100% disable it, I would.
According to the Supra instructions manual (see photo below) the range is quite small which is good, but I think the relay devices amplify the signals a bit like a wifi booster so that might still be a risk!
They make nice faraday pouches and boxes that can be pleasant to look at and use making it less of a hassle ?
Are you the kind of person that also takes different routes to/from work and the grocery store every time so “they” can’t see your routine?
Do you also not look at your phone outside so the satellites can’t see your passcodes?
Seems like paranoia is getting worse and worse.
Spoiler: None of us are that important.
razorlab
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So… yes to all that? In all seriousness, what is stopping people from doing the same thing when you are driving away or to your destination? How about at stoplights or driving next to someone on the highway?
suicidaleggroll
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I'm not sure what you mean, how is someone going to discretely steal your car while you're driving it?
The fact is that car theft using relay attacks is super cheap and super easy, you can buy a $100 kit on Amazon that lets you break into (can you even call it "break into" when all you have to do is open the door?) and steal basically any modern car with no alarm or immobilizer to worry about. It happens all the time, and is increasing in frequency. It can also be easily prevented by just sticking your key in a little pouch when you're not using it. I don't understand why you're so being hostile to people taking the simplest of precautions to keep their car from being stolen?
