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For the 1st time in this season, team rank has not changed! so the score stayed as same as last week. It is a bit surprise to me because with George's retirement, I thought Williams and Haas would switch rank.. with 0 points to both team, it's hard to guess who is ahead...
Teams with 0 or even points go on highest finishing position during the season. If Williams best position was 12th and HAAS 13th, Williams will be ranked 9th, and HAAS 10th. Now if HAAS finishes a car 11th, they'll be 9th in the constructors standings.
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Dang if I could change my team!! Haha, anyway I guess someone's gotta bring up the rear...
 
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This week's prediction challenge!

Lewis is actually on simulator! He hasn't been on simulator for awhile, I heard. some also said only 20 hours a year he spends on it. I assume he is on simulator because he wants to improve his standing. :D would this help him this weekend? better question, Will Lewis beat Max?

my prediction, yes! Lewis will beat Max although not sure if simulator helped him. :D
 

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This week's prediction challenge!

Lewis is actually on simulator! He hasn't been on simulator for awhile, I heard. some also said only 20 hours a year he spends on it. I assume he is on simulator because he wants to improve his standing. :D would this help him this weekend? better question, Will Lewis beat Max?

my prediction, yes! Lewis will beat Max although not sure if simulator helped him. :D
Lewis will not beat Max. In equal cars Max is faster. If the last 8 years have proven anything, Lewis needs a car faster than his competitors and a doormat teammate. Russell proved in Bahrain last year how easy it is to win in that car (until they conveniently mounted the wrong tires and screwed his race up)

Lewis hasn't been in the sim, because his car had enough advantage that he didn't need to. All he had to do, was get in and drive. The car did the rest. And if Bottas got too close, he got told to let Lewis by, or they just put him on a worse pit strategy.

Now that the Red Bull is equal to, and it seems in Austria, slightly better, Lewis is left desperate. Asking for upgrades and sim time.
 

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This week's prediction challenge!

Lewis is actually on simulator! He hasn't been on simulator for awhile, I heard. some also said only 20 hours a year he spends on it. I assume he is on simulator because he wants to improve his standing. :D would this help him this weekend? better question, Will Lewis beat Max?

my prediction, yes! Lewis will beat Max although not sure if simulator helped him. :D
Max will beat Lewis again.

The real question is how will Bottas and Perez shake out?
I suspect Perez will bring it home this time.

It will also be interesting to see how Daniel Ricciardo will place provided he doesn't have any engine issues this time around (though I suspect that wasn't really the reason he did poorly last race).
 

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Max will beat Lewis again.

The real question is how will Bottas and Perez shake out?
I suspect Perez will bring it home this time.

It will also be interesting to see how Daniel Ricciardo will place provided he doesn't have any engine issues this time around (though I suspect that wasn't really the reason he did poorly last race).
Bottas v Perez will be interesting. Both have a point to prove. Bottas qualified ahead of Lewis last race, so he'll want to do that again, and Perez obviously wants a podium.

Ric is just in a downward spiral. While Max was young and impetuous and impatient he could narrowly stay ahead in points due to Max having more issues, but as you saw in their last year together, that was fast coming to an end. Leaving Red Bull is the biggest mistake he ever made. Leaving Renault the second biggest. Because now again he's being schooled by a young guy. Right now, I'm rating Norris 2nd best on the grid. He's driving fantastic. His battle with Perez last race was excellent. In equal cars him and Max are going to have some great battles. I'd still give the edge to Max, but just barely. Norris is right there with him. Ric will fizzle out of F1 soon. McLaren will dump him, probably for Gasly, and Ric might go to HAAS, or Williams before leaving F1 altogether.
 

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Bottas v Perez will be interesting. Both have a point to prove. Bottas qualified ahead of Lewis last race, so he'll want to do that again, and Perez obviously wants a podium.

Ric is just in a downward spiral. While Max was young and impetuous and impatient he could narrowly stay ahead in points due to Max having more issues, but as you saw in their last year together, that was fast coming to an end. Leaving Red Bull is the biggest mistake he ever made. Leaving Renault the second biggest. Because now again he's being schooled by a young guy. Right now, I'm rating Norris 2nd best on the grid. He's driving fantastic. His battle with Perez last race was excellent. In equal cars him and Max are going to have some great battles. I'd still give the edge to Max, but just barely. Norris is right there with him. Ric will fizzle out of F1 soon. McLaren will dump him, probably for Gasly, and Ric might go to HAAS, or Williams before leaving F1 altogether.
For sure. Norris is definitely a fantastic driver. He is consistent and performs well. It will be exciting watching his career progress. I would be surprised if he doesn't win a world championship at some point in the future.

I would love to have seen a Ric and Alonso duo at Alpine. I think Ric was better adjusted to the Renault and it likely would have continued into the Alpine. I can imagine a teammate like Alonso pushing Ric to better performances as well, as opposed to just being beaten to a pulp by Lando race after race.

The "adjusting to the new car" excuse will only hold water for so long. There is some merit to the excuse, but eventually you have to perform and earn the paycheck or get tossed.
 

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This week's prediction challenge!

Lewis is actually on simulator! He hasn't been on simulator for awhile, I heard. some also said only 20 hours a year he spends on it. I assume he is on simulator because he wants to improve his standing. :D would this help him this weekend? better question, Will Lewis beat Max?

my prediction, yes! Lewis will beat Max although not sure if simulator helped him. :D
No. The W12 is slower in all respects to the RB16B this year. Pretty much doesn't matter what Lewis does, as the Red Bull is still 0.2-0.4 faster per lap, all over the course, on all tires. With focus effectively shifted to 2022 (as it should be), both drivers' and constructors' championships are over at this point. I think there will be fun mid-field battles and the occasional shock result due to mechanical DNF or weather, so it's still worth watching but the rest of this season will be like the second half of 2013. The RB16B will probably be remembered as one of the most dominant cars over one season.
 

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No. The W12 is slower in all respects to the RB16B this year. Pretty much doesn't matter what Lewis does, as the Red Bull is still 0.2-0.4 faster per lap, all over the course, on all tires. With focus effectively shifted to 2022 (as it should be), both drivers' and constructors' championships are over at this point. I think there will be fun mid-field battles and the occasional shock result due to mechanical DNF or weather, so it's still worth watching but the rest of this season will be like the second half of 2013. The RB16B will probably be remembered as one of the most dominant cars over one season.
Go watch France again. The Mercedes was the faster car. At one point during the race Max had BOTH Mercedes cars within 1.5 seconds behind him. If the RBR was faster, he'd have just cruised away like Hamilton's been doing for 7 years.
In Austria, yes. It's faster. But definitely not everywhere. With the cars this close, it's most definitely the driver making the difference.
 
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I'm not sure on logic below..

- if Mercedes win, Mercedes has faster car.
- if Max loses, Mercedes has faster car.
- if Max wins, Mercedes has faster car.
- if all commentators says Red Bull has faster car, Mercedes has faster car.
- if Mercedes crashes out, Mercedes has faster car.
- if Lando wins, Mercedes has faster car.
- if Bottas spins in pit lane, Mercedes has faster car.
- if it rains in Las Vegas, Mercedes has faster car.

Anyway.. I think Hamilton will beat Max but race win might be Perez. Definitely looking forward faster Quali time than last week.
 

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I'm not sure on logic below..

- if Mercedes win, Mercedes has faster car.
- if Max loses, Mercedes has faster car.
- if Max wins, Mercedes has faster car.
- if all commentators says Red Bull has faster car, Mercedes has faster car.
- if Mercedes crashes out, Mercedes has faster car.
- if Lando wins, Mercedes has faster car.
- if Bottas spins in pit lane, Mercedes has faster car.
- if it rains in Las Vegas, Mercedes has faster car.

Anyway.. I think Hamilton will beat Max but race win might be Perez. Definitely looking forward faster Quali time than last week.
Yea, I'm with you. I think Max and Lewis are the class of the field (though there are 3-4 others who are themselves a cut above the rest). I respect and admire both of them in a genuine way. I think they are both generational talents in terms of raw talent, car setup, and racecraft. I think would be pretty evenly matched if they were in the same car, but that's not the nature of Formula 1. Nobody can say with any certainty who would prevail. I don't know why it's so difficult for other people to just admit that. :dunno:

That said, I do think the RB16B still has 0.2 seconds or so over the W12. The Honda motor has made a step and the RB16B's aerodynamic performance/efficiency has made a step. Without some kind of W12 upgrade or revelation on setup, I think Max and the RB16B has to be the favorite going into any race at this point.
 

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I'm not sure on logic below..

- if Mercedes win, Mercedes has faster car.
- if Max loses, Mercedes has faster car.
- if Max wins, Mercedes has faster car.
- if all commentators says Red Bull has faster car, Mercedes has faster car.
- if Mercedes crashes out, Mercedes has faster car.
- if Lando wins, Mercedes has faster car.
- if Bottas spins in pit lane, Mercedes has faster car.
- if it rains in Las Vegas, Mercedes has faster car.

Anyway.. I think Hamilton will beat Max but race win might be Perez. Definitely looking forward faster Quali time than last week.
Yea, I'm with you. I think Max and Lewis are the class of the field (though there are 3-4 others who are themselves a cut above the rest). I respect and admire both of them in a genuine way. I think they are both generational talents in terms of raw talent, car setup, and racecraft. I think would be pretty evenly matched if they were in the same car, but that's not the nature of Formula 1. Nobody can say with any certainty who would prevail. I don't know why it's so difficult for other people to just admit that. :dunno:

That said, I do think the RB16B still has 0.2 seconds or so over the W12. The Honda motor has made a step and the RB16B's aerodynamic performance/efficiency has made a step. Without some kind of W12 upgrade or revelation on setup, I think Max and the RB16B has to be the favorite going into any race at this point.
Lol you guys should stop drinking the Wolff kool-aid and apply some logic.

When Mercedes wins 95% of the races, it's the car.

When in 8 years, Mercedes NEVER lose 4 races in a row, it's the car.

When in equal cars, the Mercedes gets beaten, it's the driver.

When a different car has both Mercedes' up his tailpipe, it's NOT the car that's faster.

Just because a car is faster at one track, doesn't mean it's faster at every track. The Mercedes was the faster car in France, the RBR here. Ferrari was fast in Monaco and Baku. Get the picture?

Should I go on, or are you guys just going to ignore basic facts ?
 
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So what you are saying is, last win from Max wasn't necessarily Max was fast but car was fast..?! And you will admit Hamilton IS fast IF Hamilton beats Max this weekend since he has inferior car? :confused1:
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So what you are saying is, last win from Max wasn't necessarily Max was fast but car was fast..?! And you will admit Hamilton IS fast IF Hamilton beats Max this weekend since he has inferior car? :confused1:
Thanks for proving my earlier point...

What I'm saying is, if the cars are closely matched, like this season, for the first time in 8 years, the driver makes the difference. If Lewis wins, and conditions are the same as last race, then Lewis did a better job. The Mercedes might be better on the softer tires used this weekend, it might rain, Max, or Lewis might have a mechanical DNF. We won't know till after the race. Different variables this weekend.
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