Muscle car sales are fading away…

[Willow1308]

Muscle car sales are fading away…

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[XtremeMaC]

https://www.musclecarsandtrucks.com...ng-chevrolet-camaro-dodge-charger-challenger/

duh. They're fading because emission restrictions and EV hype is on the rise and American OEMs stopped caring for few hundred thousand cumbersome developed muscle car volume. EV is the new cool...

Aside from that, practicality. Trucks, SUV, SAV, CUV, paw, bang are on the rise.

Many other reasons to switch to Supra

Long live the ICE and OEMs that pledged to continue developing them! ?

 

[Escapist]

Aren't performance coupes in general fading away? The main consumer base who purchases them are enthusiasts which are a dying category in and of itself. I for one am looking forward to the EV market becoming more mainstream. I have my eyes on the Model 2 (or whatever they decide to call it) and if the price point is to be believed, will be RIP for the ICE.

 

[RenRed2]

Future is here and the 'Boomers' are dying off and no one cares about what they like anymore. No loss LOL

Time for new. You dont need 'muscle' or bulk cars like those of the past at all. A smaller nimble Supra has specs most muscle cars never found except for limited production type models.

 

[zrk]

I have my eyes on the Model 2

It likely won't be '2'

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[VA90]

Future is here and the 'Boomers' are dying off and no one cares about what they like anymore. No loss LOL

Time for new. You dont need 'muscle' or bulk cars like those of the past at all. A smaller nimble Supra has specs most muscle cars never found except for limited production type models.

+1

Camaro, Mustang, and Challenger all got too big and too expensive and in Camaro's case, too ugly. The universe of buyers willing and able to pay upwards of $85K for the likes of GT500, Challenger Redeye, and ZL1 wasn't exactly huge and those platforms don't exactly translate if you try to put a wheezy V6 in them... Lots of missteps along the way by Ford, GM, and Stellantis. It didn't need to be this way... Toyota and Nissan have both shown that there is a way to make a profitable, quick sports car that doesn't cost $90K. Even in an EV world, I think there is room for an American muscle car, but it can't be a 4200 pound car with a giant supercharged V8 that costs $75K...

 

[Jakester]

EV ??

 

[obito]

EV ??

Yeah. EVs will never interest me

 

[XtremeMaC]

Camaro, Mustang, and Challenger all got too big and too expensive and in Camaro's case, too ugly. The universe of buyers willing and able to pay upwards of $85K for the likes of GT500, Challenger Redeye, and ZL1 wasn't exactly huge and those platforms don't exactly translate if you try to put a wheezy V6 in them... Lots of missteps along the way by Ford, GM, and Stellantis. It didn't need to be this way... Toyota and Nissan have both shown that there is a way to make a profitable, quick sports car that doesn't cost $90K. Even in an EV world, I think there is room for an American muscle car, but it can't be a 4200 pound car with a giant supercharged V8 that costs $75K...

They surely could have handled things better, but I think primary reason is like Escapist mentioned, performance cars are dying. Because, surely gas is more expensive, but when did heavy & gas guzzler but fast cars ever stopped general masses from buying these? Are zoomers somehow more environmentally conscience and into agility? Big 3 put same engines into trucks and are selling.. Wish we had data to back claims..

Sales are going down but only moving the EV needle by few percent.. So, it's not EV that's stealing customers, massively at least..

People on the forums are talking mostly about Stinger, Z, Supra, Porsche. Common theme is non of them are American.. I feel bad for C8. Riddled/ruined with so many shutdowns.

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[Mason]

It likely won't be '2'

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He meant model II

 

[XtremeMaC]

2 works as well. 2SEXY 2CARS. SEXY CARS: Tokyo Drift

 

[J29DB03]

Electric is not a sustainable means of personal transportation. It’s perfect for UPS, FedEx, USPS, etc. Good for those who live in a city as well but not much more. The future of fuel was, is, and always will be hydrogen. Been saying it to whoever will listen for over a decade now. That’s why I’m proud to support a car manufacturer who is dedicating as much R&D into hydrogen as Toyota. JCB has shown we can power an ICE with hydrogen as well so no need for a fuel cell like before.

 

[zrk]

The future of fuel was, is, and always will be hydrogen.

I wish I had the balls to be as sure as you are. My 'Future Fuels' investments are equally split, so I'm not crazy worried about it, but if I could sack up, dump one or the other, and throw a million into a sure thing, I absolutely would.

 

[J29DB03]

I wish I had the balls to be as sure as you are. My 'Future Fuels' investments are equally split, so I'm not crazy worried about it, but if I could sack up, dump one or the other, and throw a million into a sure thing, I absolutely would.

I just see it this way, take CA for example. They are pushing electric hard on everything including lawn equipment. How are the people who have decided to drive only an electric vehicle going to feel when they can’t go anywhere because the power has been shut off due to the day being a high fire risk? Trust me, I’m all for keeping people and there homes safe first and foremost, but I just don’t see that as a viable future long term. Fully realize I can be completely wrong as I am in no way an expert on this, merely an observer.

 

[mokleen]

It likely won't be '2'

Model S
Model 3
Model X
Model Y

Cybertruck
Atx
Roadster
Semi

Model 2
Model S
Model 3
Model X
Model Y

Cybertruck
Atx
Roadster
Semi



......I'll see myself out...

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