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I wonder where I got the idea from....
They’re always sold out from Wagner USA, send me a DM me if you want to source for a reputable vendor in the UK. I got it at Wagner USA web listed price shipped to my door, they also check stock prior to billing.
 

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They’re always sold out from Wagner USA, send me a DM me if you want to source for a reputable vendor in the UK. I got it at Wagner USA web listed price shipped to my door, they also check stock prior to billing.
Thank you for the offer. I have made many friends in this industry over the past 20 years. My source can get me one in about 4 weeks well below retail pricing. It's like black Friday for me everytime I need car parts haha.
 

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We are now at 20 weeks and 1 day. I just cancelled the order. Going to order a Wagner instead. So, sorry, someone else will have to be the guinea pig for this one.

Now lets see if we have to play the game of how many weeks will it take to get a refund....
 

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We are now at 20 weeks and 1 day. I just cancelled the order. Going to order a Wagner instead. So, sorry, someone else will have to be the guinea pig for this one.

Now lets see if we have to play the game of how many weeks will it take to get a refund....
You should consult with @Awad . lol. Not that you're doing what he did but I'm sure he's pretty knowledgeable on returns/canceled orders.
 

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Already got my money back so all good there. Their customer service seems to be pretty good to me.
 

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Already got my money back so all good there. Their customer service seems to be pretty good to me.
you could also consider The Remnant Performance GAMMA System 🤣. We actually have these and have a bunch of test data already (**shameless plug**)
 

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Match the price I get a Wagner for and I will give your intake a try.
Not sure what you get a Wagner for but I think you’ll see pricing to be comparable for a much more complete solution.

• Wagner Manifold - $2,490
• Wagner Fuel Rail - $200
• ID 1050cc Injectors - $806
• Phenolic Spacer - $160-$300
• Custom AN Fuel Lines & Fittings - $???
• Your time and labor to make your own coolant lines, fuel lines, vacuum lines - $???

Total: $3,656-$3,796+

RP - Full GAMMA System - 1050 includes all this and more with a MUCH larger and more efficient single pass coolant core that was able to cool from 240°F temps and only going from 61°F to 67°F on an 892whp / 1009tq dyno pool ALL for $3,490.

According to Wagner’s own website, they dyno’d 463whp car and IAT’s post intercooler rose 11°C or 20°F. Half the HP and 3.33x the temp rise.

In conclusion, we cost less, we have a complete solution and we cool much better! If you want all the data, I can definitely show it
 

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Not sure what you get a Wagner for but I think you’ll see pricing to be comparable for a much more complete solution.

• Wagner Manifold - $2,490
• Wagner Fuel Rail - $200
• ID 1050cc Injectors - $806
• Phenolic Spacer - $160-$300
• Custom AN Fuel Lines & Fittings - $???
• Your time and labor to make your own coolant lines, fuel lines, vacuum lines - $???

Total: $3,656-$3,796+

RP - Full GAMMA System - 1050 includes all this and more with a MUCH larger and more efficient single pass coolant core that was able to cool from 240°F temps and only going from 61°F to 67°F on an 892whp / 1009tq dyno pool ALL for $3,490.

According to Wagner’s own website, they dyno’d 463whp car and IAT’s post intercooler rose 11°C or 20°F. Half the HP and 3.33x the temp rise.

In conclusion, we cost less, we have a complete solution and we cool much better! If you want all the data, I can definitely show it
Without getting too deep into details, I'm somewhere around 2k for the Wagner (in stock at my distributor as well) Not doing PI so don't need all that other stuff. My time is free so if I have to make lines, not a big deal. I also have my own line of AN fittings/hose so pennies on the dollar for me.

I know you have no idea who I am but I'm not your typical customer. I run a shop too and do wierd stuff like build quad turbo LS engines. We actually manufacture our own air to water intake for LS engines too (in house), just not any Supra stuff....

Edit - forgot to say, we both know there is a lot more to ambient temps to charge temps than the difference. For example, a stock turbo running at 30 psi is going to be a lot hotter than your turbo running at 20 psi even though they make the same power. So you can't quite compare just the end results. We need to know temps before the heat exchanger too. Don't remember if Wagner posted those. Not knocking on your intake either! I'm sure it works great which is why I wouldn't mind one on my car.
 
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Without getting too deep into details, I'm somewhere around 2k for the Wagner (in stock at my distributor as well) Not doing PI so don't need all that other stuff. My time is free so if I have to make lines, not a big deal. I also have my own line of AN fittings/hose so pennies on the dollar for me.

I know you have no idea who I am but I'm not your typical customer. I run a shop too and do wierd stuff like build quad turbo LS engines. We actually manufacture our own air to water intake for LS engines too (in house), just not any Supra stuff....

Edit - forgot to say, we both know there is a lot more to ambient temps to charge temps than the difference. For example, a stock turbo running at 30 psi is going to be a lot hotter than your turbo running at 20 psi even though they make the same power. So you can't quite compare just the end results. We need to know temps before the heat exchanger too. Don't remember if Wagner posted those. Not knocking on your intake either! I'm sure it works great which is why I wouldn't mind one on my car.
Can you get any more cooler? Pun intended. Didn't know you did all this.
 
 




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